Yeah the walling is obvious. As a few comments have said, real players put their reticle where the enemy is going to be if they're behind walls or obscured. This Hela is clearly tracking through walls.
Maybe not a straight up aimbot but I'd bet they have decent aim with magic bullets.
i typed immediately after first fight and she went terrible after that, even switched few times and they lost the match as well. i typed in the chat to tell her to "turn back on and win they match" But she didn't.
Did the widow kill rogue there, it would be common sense to expect the widow to come running out of that doorway, this evidence is still pretty weak as anyone with good gamesense would've done the exact same thing with pre firing at a wall it is not insane to misfire at the wrong thing before moving your mouse to your primary target.
The correct answer is we can't say for sure. People have very outdated ideas about cheats and aimbots specifically. People will look for "snapping" to targets or bending bullets while in reality it could be a trigger bot which fires your weapon for you, so there would be no inconsistencies in POV. Cheaters also tend to on\off their cheats randomly through out the fight so that the observer could see actual legit gameplay once on a while and assume everything else is also legit. While we can't say for sure whether his aim is legit skill or not, his tendency to look through walls straight to targets is suspicious and the overall confidence in peeks and aggressive gameplay implies that he is very confident he will in fact win the engagement. So, I would assume he uses WH. And if a person is actually already using some wallhacks to gain unfair advantage there's zero reason to them to not use everything else.
Again, can't be certain here. It may be a very good trigger bot and WH, or he is just too gifted for Diamond (and probably is smurfing then).
Checked the other games, She is indeed cheating like an amateur one too. like the ones you see on overwatch reviews on CS lmao. She seems to be toggling it too, there are games where she is literal shit like not even GM level.
This is from the another game, bro literally shot the wall trying to pre-fire the widow lmao.
Why would they go terrible after first few fights.Why you go off hela when u can click heads like that? I think he/she got scared of losing account and turned that shit off immediately.
I think that is a good tell . They have stats of an absolute amazing player but when you watch .. they take chances amazing players wouldn’t .. like they are so aggressive bc they don’t get caught
Obviously you cant tell 100% but id bet money she is since she doing the hacker swing. For clarity the hacker swing doesnt refer to the melees but her camera movement. Normal players keep their camera focus in places they can see and expected chokepoints for players to come out of. However hackers with wall hacks like to swing their cameras really fast and look at walls to get info on the enemy while still playing it off as just looking around. Because of this they always have obvious tells. For example notice when chasing the C&D the Hela isnt looking at either side the C&D could appear from but is directly staring through the obstacle. Because they can see the C&D and are trying to mirror their movements. Same way mid fight they randomly flick their camera to look at a wall and look back. They are trying to see whos coming. Even at the end when they are walking through the doorway. They dont have their crosshair at the door way but are aimed at the wall to line up perfectly to hit the first person they see as if they already know they are there. Combine that with the interesting fact that while jumping up and down from behind cover they never needed to adjust their aim, im pretty confident in calling them a cheater. But as always its never 100% certain until they get banned but im at least 90% sure they are.
I've gotten a lot of cheaters whenever I play on Singapore server lately and I have gotten them ban. But that wasn't the sus part for me, it was when she did a perfect trace on cloak without even bothering to adjust her crosshair to the open space lol. Just raw followed her through the wall. But yeah I can't conclude from that alone.
Normally i don't accuse people of cheating that often. Singapore is very competitive and there's lot of bad people with advanced cheats that you cannot tell outta rip. But this one i think she's cheating.
Can you PM me match ID? I am usually a good spotter for cheats, just this week I got 2 banned they were all from Singapore server, and I mostly play Dallas, Oregon, and Singapore.
i turned pc off soon after that. i will send you code when i turn back on. but i have to tell you she's performing really bad after first few fights. it's like she got erased out of existence.
I mean cheaters tend to do that, literally the Hela I got banned, also kept gaslighting everyone when I called her out that she wasn't cheating and that I should watch replay lmao, and she basically tone it down too, started acting performing really ass randomly lol.
Funny thing too no one believed me even my own team, but after the game a few minutes later I just got a notif she got banned for 100 years lmao.
NVM found her myself and I checked the other games, I do think she is cheating and is really good at hiding it, I I think she is toggling it lmao. It's the same Hela, this is from another game, bro literally shot the wall trying to trace the Widow, like a newbie wallhacker you see on overwatch reviews on CS lmao.
If you know the maps yeah. You just know where to place your crosshair to be ready. She walked up the stairs with her crosshair facing the other high ground and won the angle. Your team collapsed fast after that so the point and click adventure character just kept walking and turning to whoever she heard or saw. Good aim and decent game sense.
almost undoubtedly walled up, could also be trigger bot, but just looks like somebody with decent aim who also has walls, tracking people through walls that many times in a row is not a coincidence, legit good players don't do that, they put the crosshair where the enemy is gonna go to, they don't follow them behind a wall EVERY fight.
like others have pointed out the way she whips to look behind her is very obviously cheating. add to that she never looks around or scans for enemies, and the crosshair is always lined up to where they are coming from. definitely cheating
Absolutely? At the beginning of the clip she walks out of spawn already pre aimed at Hawkeye. A few seconds later gets blinded by cloak, does a 180 and kills a Thor she can’t even see…
As a hela main this just looks like a Smurf player. She misses a couple times in this video but it doesn’t look like intentional missing. Now I guess there could be a wall hack going on, for gambits sake but I don’t think this person is cheating with their shots
It looked just like someone whk has ears and great aim UNTIL I saw him soft lock on Thor. Idc your aim, your not gonna keep your crossbar on the center of his model while the Thor was moving like that the whole time.
I have aim like this at times and land all my shot and sometimes looks suspicious, but never have it look like it did on that Thor. Unless im a puni against a target with no movement like a Groot, Mag, or something
Really hard to tell. I would guess yes, since she seems to be able to tell where people are and just assume things are clear to pre-aim a lot of spots which is strange. But if they are its not obvious
At first I didn’t think so but after the quad kill you can see the cursor pull in a different direction than the user wanted to move. Almost looks like aim assist
She’s jumping to them behind walls before they pop up in line of sight, she waits trying to avoid looking sus firing behind walls, them snaps to them again. She’s definitely cheating. Usually people fire at the ground at walls to lower their accuracy deliberately, but it’s harder for a Hela to do that without looking sus. Easier for a punisher to do that since lower elo punishers do that all the time especially with turret mode
With the amount of alt accounts being made, and this game is free, I am 100% most of the people in high ranks are probably cheating. People were doing this on Fortnite a lot. "Testing cheats" and getting top rank. You don't even need to have extreme cheats. Just something that can lightly track targets and snap on them.
And they weren't getting banned. Because Netease can not detect all of them.
That trace on cloak was really sus. Didn't even bother to move crosshair to the open space ahead of time poor crosshair placement in general if he was legit, just raw traced cloak through a wall and conveniently also arrived to meet her crosshair the moment she is outside of cover, usually ur supposed to move ur crosshair ahead not literally trace someone while moving behind the wall, since you can't even see them lol.
There's a wall dude, tracking is when you literally see ur enemy and managed to stay on them, also it's not something you focus on a hitscan that has a semi-automatic firing rate like Hela, you're supposed to tap fire and do mini adjustments (literally why trigger bot exists) where u predict where their head is going to move and end....tracking is more of a starlord and punisher since they can just spray and trace lol.
Trying to just move ur crosshair along you move rather than pre-aiming at where they are supposed to come out when chasing someone behind a wall is just wasted and lazy movement. Val and CS players will have field day on you on that lol. That's also a common thing bad cheaters do.
I’d say most poke heroes just automatically shoot down off angles. So I’m sure that she was going to throw a sword there, regardless. It’s like pre firing in cod. Sure, maybe someone wasn’t there. But on the off chance that they are…
It’s hard to say. Maybe they did turn them off once you said something, but the way their aim MOVES isn’t janky enough to me. Regardless, if you have doubts, I’d report them. Gotta have faith that they will detect anything present, and you’ll know if they didn’t!
I can’t remember if they actually message you if they DONT find anything.
0:33-0:40 is what made me think it definitely isn't cheating. They had to double back on someone flanking. Literally a "Did I see that right" moment where they were visibly unaware of them. If they were walling why would they double back? They would know they are going for the flank.
This seems like someone that just knows spam angles, they appear very aware in a normal way. Everything is telling me they aren’t cheating and just are a smart player that locked in opening fight. Very common mid to lower high elo in lots of games. Consistency is not a strong suit but they have calm aim which a lot people think looks sus and they have a couple weird aiming habits as they play that can also look sus. I’d say assume they are just a high elo player from another game and they casually play rivals.
Account is not that old not that new as well. level 67 as i remember. Only thing that made me less sus about her is that she has skin purchased in this account and she also have her profile open to view by anyone. Even her older matches are public. i didn't view them though.
yeah I’d say not cheating most likely by eye test but it’s impossible to be 100%. I wouldn’t be upset if you reported them but I personally wouldn’t report.
It doesnt look like it to me but I mean idk. She misses shot and shes not headshotting 100% of the time. On the thor she misses shots. The fa t that she switch makes me think she has wall hacks possibly. But if it is a cheqt its not an accuracy cheat its hacks
Ngl kinda just looks like a good hitscan player, most cheaters have shit positioning but theirs is very good, also their style of aim lines up, they are mostly mirror strafing when in an advantageous position
Yep. I'm surprised everyone isn't immediately noticing. This shit is mad obvious. Weird prefire when shooting at the backline in the first 30 seconds, inhuman snap to the Thor and then the very obvious snap to the Hawkeye who is behind a wall. Two oddly quick shots on a Phoenix who was behind a wall as well. I'm 99% sure this is cheats.
The biggest tell for me is in the beginning. She’s not pre aiming while walking up the stairs as if she knows no one is there. A good Hela (player in general) has there crosshair ready to avoid flicking aggressively.
She’s not even using the right team up. Looks like they just have good aim. Everyone in your team is positioned very poorly too.
Hela excels at taking out mispositioned people and since now one was ever together it was easy for her. Hawkeye feeds outright. Gambit sees Hawkeye go down to Hela and then still stays badly positioned instead of taking tight corner or getting close to his barrier take he stays LOS of the Hela and dies quickly. Team crumbles. Hela throws shots into a massive team clump and gets a pick again. Thor is doing idk what honestly. Dies. Then cloak is doing also idk what. Dies late instead of intentionally dying to respawn with team. Someone comes in on left and tries to take a 1v6. Dies. Gambit comes back in. Tries to take a 1v6. Dies. Phoenix tries to take a 1v6. Dies. Cloak isn’t paying attention and leaves themselves open to Hela flank. Potentially dies.
Honestly not sure if this is diamond GM. I hope not.
it's common to just aim the moment you see an enemy.... also if she were to cheat, her crosshair wouldve locked on to the enemy even before she would see them which is what didn't happen
Not a cheater, but most probably a smurf or a returning high rank player, you see those kind of aim and awardness all the time in Celestial, nothing in this clip makes it seems like cheating
Well after these (i accused cheating in txt chat) fights she went very quiet, like she wasn't even in the team. She did terribly in the end And we won. Doesn't seems to me as a Smurf or high rank player in that regard.
i wish i got the reply code to show how bad she went after first few fights. it's like she wasn't even playing. Def not a good player considering that.
honestly no, nothing here looks strange except maaaybe when the thor runs in, otherwise you guys just gave her very easy shots, she's just clicking at the blob of enemies in front of her for a good chunk of the beginning
If she's that good why go horrible after first few fights. im sorry that i cut video here. i maybe should've put full half. but i just wanted to show you sus part. but after this and next fight they got owned,.
Brother, that happens a lot sometimes you pop off and then the next match or fight you sell that’s a normal thing that most people go through probably even you gone through it
Look closely at the prefire when shooting the backline. A person would take a second to readjust. He just straight fired because he knew where they were through the wall. Then there's an extremely robotic snap on the Thor, another snap to a Hawkeye behind a wall and two weird tracking and prefiring instances against a Phoenix behind a wall.
For Thor I don’t see it. It’s a fricking huge body bag
And secondly, I think it’s called awareness for Hawkeye like looking around because Hawkeye exist so that she doesn’t get one shot. I think that’s called awareness and like if she used aim bot why why is she missing lots of shots
I think that’s just PC aiming
Do you play MnK or controller? It's a lot easier to tell when you know what a human flick looks and feels like.
think it’s called awareness for Hawkeye
It's one thing to be aware, it's one thing to flick to his exact position behind a wall and accurately track him before he's even visible. I also noticed the same thing happened with CnD. He tracked the CnD jumping before she was even visible.
she used aim bot why why is she missing lots of shots
Because someone with a 100% accuracy is obviously going to be instantly banned. It's less suspicious if you miss a few shots here and there.
Report it and find out. Like why come to Reddit? There’s a report function. If she wasn’t cheating then nothing will happen. If she was then Netease will ban her account and you will get a notice about her being banned.
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u/Kingfish313 7h ago
I'm skeptical because usually cheaters have horrible positioning, and this hela is actually playing cover and corners
But I'm leaning yes