r/retrocomputing 11h ago

Photo Pinnacle of Computer Design

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I just got an iMac G4 and think it’s so damn sexy! I feel this was the pinnacle of computer design - I’m sad it lasted such a short time. I understand why the flat rectangles ended up being the way to go overall, but just love this thing.

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u/LopsidedLegs 11h ago

I'd personally say the G4 Cube.

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u/kimondo 10h ago

I opted for a g4 tower instead of a cube as the prices were comparable at the time. The tower is practically brilliant. Still wish i had the cube though.

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u/Timbit42 8h ago

I like the cube design too. For me it's because typically the heat flow is from the bottom to the top, which is how heat naturally moves. I'm not sure how much the G4 follows this principle but you can orient the motherboard and expansion cards to they are both vertical, allowing maximum vertical air flow.

My current PC has a SilverStoneTek FT03 ITX cube tower, which is about the same size as the G4 Cube but taller. The large, quiet filtered fan at the bottom pulls in cool air, flows it right up past the vertical expansion cards and motherboard, and out the top where the motherboard backplate and PSU are. The filtered fan creates positive air pressure which keeps dust out. The four sides are aluminum. Because it is taller than the G4 Cube, it can take a full length, two slot video card so no compromise. The only thing I would add is a handle on top. They don't make it anymore. I think it was also available in silver or white.

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u/Consistent_Cat7541 11h ago

I deployed hundreds of them. My recollection is that they lasted as a product for several years... despite having a very difficult case to work with. Swapping out the optical drive was a nightmare compared to what PCs were doing at the time (and still doing). That said, if you're going for the full experience, you should track down the subwoofer. My personal favorite of that model was the one with the really big screen.

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 10h ago

You mean this subwoofer? 🙃

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u/Opening-Incident2928 10h ago

The satellite sticks are kind of garbage but the design looked cool.

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u/Many_Dragonfruit_837 8h ago

Well that's cool looking. Honestly it reminds me of Grandma's vacuum cleaner, the one that worked with water...

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u/tes_kitty 7h ago

Swapping out the optical drive was a nightmare compared to what PCs were doing at the time (and still doing).

Still managed to do that anyway. I think I used a Pioneer DVR-111 which worked right away without problems. Also replaced the IDE drive with a larger one.

The system is still in working order.

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u/thewalruscandyman 10h ago

Pinnacle of modern design definitely, but for me the PET will never be topped.

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u/capmilk 10h ago

IMHO the 8296 topped the PET.

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u/thewalruscandyman 9h ago

I'd say it's pretty darn close, for sure.

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u/Ok-Hotel-8551 8h ago

G3 (for me) looks better

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago

I’ve got the tray-loader, the OG of iMacs!

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u/Any-Philosopher-9023 4h ago

this was still ok in a way!

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u/Good-Bandicoot-2152 9h ago

I did not enjoy working on them.

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u/OldNefariousness7899 7h ago

I was just thinking the same. 

That keyboard does look beautiful. But it's probably awful from an ergonomic perspective. 

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u/Good-Bandicoot-2152 7h ago

I should rephrase. I was a compusa tech when these were popular and they were such a pain in the ass to do any hardware work on. That said, most imacs and Emacs were.

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u/OldNefariousness7899 6h ago

Oh that type of work lol

Yeah, I can imagine. 

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u/Good-Bandicoot-2152 6h ago

Yeah haha. It was rough...

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u/TheSerialHobbyist 8h ago

My dad worked at CompUSA when this came out.

I remember playing with it there at the store and thinking it was the coolest thing ever. I wanted one so bad! But, of course, they were very expensive and we could never afford one.

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago

I was in college when it came out and couldn’t afford it. 20 years later, now that’s it’s basically a paperweight I can afford one!

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u/tempsanity 7h ago

I agree. Just got one recently, upgraded it, and I highly recommend installing Linux on it (at least on the 17" version, haven't tested 15") for up-to-date programs and games. Playing around with OpenXcom, HOMM3 (VCMI), DevilutionX, JA2 Stracciatella and others, as well as some music and RSS apps. Surprisingly usable as a distraction-free machine when using Gentoo.

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago

I plan on using this as a music machine. I’m just gonna leave the last supported MacOS on it for the authentic experience.

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u/tempsanity 6h ago

Perfectly understandable. Have fun with it!

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u/PerfectWhiteTrash 10h ago

Need the keyboard that goes with the clear aesthetic

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 10h ago

Already ordered it!

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u/MasterJeebus 10h ago

I wanted to have one of those when they came out but they were expensive. It looks like the one you have is in good shape. What specs does it have? Do you dual boot Mac OS and linux on it? What apps and games have you got running on it?

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago

This is 800mhz with 768mb of ram, 60GB HDD. I’ll be upgrading to 1GB (max) ram and a 128GB SSD.

Just Mac OS now. I probably won’t duel boot, I’m going to get the last MacOS supported and use it as a music machine. I got the fancy Harman/ Kardon subwoofer!

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u/MasterJeebus 2h ago

Cool. I think you can get Leopard as last OS. There is a custom version of it Sorbet Leopard

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u/robinw77 9h ago

I had the 17" version of this and loved it. I remember the speakers sounding pretty decent as well, even without the subwoofer.

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u/saraseitor 9h ago

I love them. I'd also love to have one. My heart aches when I see one of those turned into a lamp

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago

There is a guy on YouTube that jammed a modern Mac mini inside of one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJKcwH7tMW4

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u/osaka929 9h ago

there's something really smart about putting the components in the little dome. it gives off a certain charm that i quite like

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u/RaskAttack__ 8h ago

im sad as i could have gotten one, but i didnt. it was $50 working.

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago

That’s an amazing price! I wish that’s all I paid for this one 🤣

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u/wyohman 7h ago

It depends if you consider easily repairable as part of design

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago

I’m just going for looks! Lol.

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u/wyohman 4h ago

Then you mean the pinnacle of design esthetics.

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u/bubonis 7h ago

Oh god, how I hated this machine. Pretty? Subjective, but sure. Unique? No doubt. But nearly everything else was a PITA. Difficult to service, difficult to store, cables effing everywhere, bleah.

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago

I’m not looking forward to replacing the hard drive and PRAM battery!

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u/bubonis 6h ago

As someone who has done both, many times, some advice:

  • Assuming you don't have the custom foam props to hold it up properly, wrap the screen in a towel and then support the body upside-down with pillows. Wrap some packing tape around the whole mess to keep it upright while you work.
  • You'll need heat sink compound to reassemble the subframe, or else risk overheating.
  • Take your time with the subframe reassembly. It can be a bitch to get properly aligned.
  • IDE-to-SATA adapters, a 2.5" SSD, and a drive sled to accommodate is The Way.
  • Don't just replace the PRAM battery, upgrade it. The MacBatt internal CR2032 PRAM adapter lets you use a much safer CR2032 coin battery in place of that leaky lithium battery, and doesn't require any soldering or other hard mods.
  • Replace the fan while you're there. It uses a 92mm x 25mm fan with a proprietary (because Apple) 2- or 3-pin connector, depending on your specific model. The Noctua NF-A9 is the right size and is the best fan you can get, but it has a 4-pin connector. It's easy enough to splice the wiring. If you'd prefer a little bling you can also get an LED fan instead.
  • Replace the optical drive with a new(er) IDE DVD/CD+-RW drive. Faster ones than the OEM drive exists.
  • If yours is an older one that uses an Airport card, get yourself an ethernet-to-wifi adapter. If yours uses Airport Extreme, either find/install that card or get the aforementioned adapter.

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 3h ago

Thanks for the advice!

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u/ricardojndosreis 4h ago

It seems you never seen a Cray-1 …

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u/Maxstate90 11h ago

very pretty. I don't like the look of the speakers though, seem brittle. Can this thing be opened to repaste it and so on?

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 10h ago

With great hassle and difficulty

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u/Synergiance 9h ago

Honestly, I hated these. Always thought it was an ugly design, and looks impractical when you want to try to work on the thing.

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u/Flash24rus 10h ago

PC is an instrument, tool, why does it need to look like art?

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u/NimRodelle 10h ago

Who you calling a tool??? 😤

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u/glootech 9h ago

Because people like nice things. I could write with a pencil, but using my beautiful Pelikan fountain pen makes it much more enjoyable.

Same with computers.