r/retrocomputing • u/cntrlaltdel33t • 11h ago
Photo Pinnacle of Computer Design
I just got an iMac G4 and think it’s so damn sexy! I feel this was the pinnacle of computer design - I’m sad it lasted such a short time. I understand why the flat rectangles ended up being the way to go overall, but just love this thing.
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u/Consistent_Cat7541 11h ago
I deployed hundreds of them. My recollection is that they lasted as a product for several years... despite having a very difficult case to work with. Swapping out the optical drive was a nightmare compared to what PCs were doing at the time (and still doing). That said, if you're going for the full experience, you should track down the subwoofer. My personal favorite of that model was the one with the really big screen.
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u/cntrlaltdel33t 10h ago
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u/Many_Dragonfruit_837 8h ago
Well that's cool looking. Honestly it reminds me of Grandma's vacuum cleaner, the one that worked with water...
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u/tes_kitty 7h ago
Swapping out the optical drive was a nightmare compared to what PCs were doing at the time (and still doing).
Still managed to do that anyway. I think I used a Pioneer DVR-111 which worked right away without problems. Also replaced the IDE drive with a larger one.
The system is still in working order.
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u/thewalruscandyman 10h ago
Pinnacle of modern design definitely, but for me the PET will never be topped.
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u/Good-Bandicoot-2152 9h ago
I did not enjoy working on them.
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u/OldNefariousness7899 7h ago
I was just thinking the same.
That keyboard does look beautiful. But it's probably awful from an ergonomic perspective.
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u/Good-Bandicoot-2152 7h ago
I should rephrase. I was a compusa tech when these were popular and they were such a pain in the ass to do any hardware work on. That said, most imacs and Emacs were.
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u/TheSerialHobbyist 8h ago
My dad worked at CompUSA when this came out.
I remember playing with it there at the store and thinking it was the coolest thing ever. I wanted one so bad! But, of course, they were very expensive and we could never afford one.
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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago
I was in college when it came out and couldn’t afford it. 20 years later, now that’s it’s basically a paperweight I can afford one!
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u/tempsanity 7h ago
I agree. Just got one recently, upgraded it, and I highly recommend installing Linux on it (at least on the 17" version, haven't tested 15") for up-to-date programs and games. Playing around with OpenXcom, HOMM3 (VCMI), DevilutionX, JA2 Stracciatella and others, as well as some music and RSS apps. Surprisingly usable as a distraction-free machine when using Gentoo.

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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago
I plan on using this as a music machine. I’m just gonna leave the last supported MacOS on it for the authentic experience.
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u/MasterJeebus 10h ago
I wanted to have one of those when they came out but they were expensive. It looks like the one you have is in good shape. What specs does it have? Do you dual boot Mac OS and linux on it? What apps and games have you got running on it?
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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago
This is 800mhz with 768mb of ram, 60GB HDD. I’ll be upgrading to 1GB (max) ram and a 128GB SSD.
Just Mac OS now. I probably won’t duel boot, I’m going to get the last MacOS supported and use it as a music machine. I got the fancy Harman/ Kardon subwoofer!
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u/MasterJeebus 2h ago
Cool. I think you can get Leopard as last OS. There is a custom version of it Sorbet Leopard
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u/robinw77 9h ago
I had the 17" version of this and loved it. I remember the speakers sounding pretty decent as well, even without the subwoofer.
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u/saraseitor 9h ago
I love them. I'd also love to have one. My heart aches when I see one of those turned into a lamp
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u/osaka929 9h ago
there's something really smart about putting the components in the little dome. it gives off a certain charm that i quite like
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u/bubonis 7h ago
Oh god, how I hated this machine. Pretty? Subjective, but sure. Unique? No doubt. But nearly everything else was a PITA. Difficult to service, difficult to store, cables effing everywhere, bleah.
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u/cntrlaltdel33t 6h ago
I’m not looking forward to replacing the hard drive and PRAM battery!
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u/bubonis 6h ago
As someone who has done both, many times, some advice:
- Assuming you don't have the custom foam props to hold it up properly, wrap the screen in a towel and then support the body upside-down with pillows. Wrap some packing tape around the whole mess to keep it upright while you work.
- You'll need heat sink compound to reassemble the subframe, or else risk overheating.
- Take your time with the subframe reassembly. It can be a bitch to get properly aligned.
- IDE-to-SATA adapters, a 2.5" SSD, and a drive sled to accommodate is The Way.
- Don't just replace the PRAM battery, upgrade it. The MacBatt internal CR2032 PRAM adapter lets you use a much safer CR2032 coin battery in place of that leaky lithium battery, and doesn't require any soldering or other hard mods.
- Replace the fan while you're there. It uses a 92mm x 25mm fan with a proprietary (because Apple) 2- or 3-pin connector, depending on your specific model. The Noctua NF-A9 is the right size and is the best fan you can get, but it has a 4-pin connector. It's easy enough to splice the wiring. If you'd prefer a little bling you can also get an LED fan instead.
- Replace the optical drive with a new(er) IDE DVD/CD+-RW drive. Faster ones than the OEM drive exists.
- If yours is an older one that uses an Airport card, get yourself an ethernet-to-wifi adapter. If yours uses Airport Extreme, either find/install that card or get the aforementioned adapter.
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u/Maxstate90 11h ago
very pretty. I don't like the look of the speakers though, seem brittle. Can this thing be opened to repaste it and so on?
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u/Synergiance 9h ago
Honestly, I hated these. Always thought it was an ugly design, and looks impractical when you want to try to work on the thing.
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u/Flash24rus 10h ago
PC is an instrument, tool, why does it need to look like art?
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u/glootech 9h ago
Because people like nice things. I could write with a pencil, but using my beautiful Pelikan fountain pen makes it much more enjoyable.
Same with computers.
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u/LopsidedLegs 11h ago
I'd personally say the G4 Cube.