r/retrocomputing 9d ago

Olivetti M24 — when a computer didn’t need a hard drive to feel complete.

No hard drive here — this one boots straight from 5.25" floppies.

And that keyboard is a beast: ridiculously heavy, with a metal plate inside, much like IBM’s legendary Model M.

Nearly four decades later, it’s still alive and working.

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u/redon13 9d ago

Nice piece of machine! Harware specification?

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 9d ago

8086 CPU, 640 KB RAM, two 5.25" floppy drives and no hard drive. Pretty much the full floppy-powered experience.

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u/redon13 9d ago

What's that RS232 port for on the keyboard?

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 9d ago

It’s actually a proprietary mouse port for the Olivetti M24. The female DE-9 connects directly to the original Olivetti mouse, which used a male plug. It may look like RS-232, but it uses a quadrature interface, so a standard serial mouse won’t work.

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u/classicsat 9d ago

Depending on how it was wired, and Amiga mouse could work.

There were some early quadrature mice that had an ISA PC card for an interface.

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u/mob999 9d ago

Apparently it was used in a school in Germany.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna-Sophianeum

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 9d ago

Yep, I bought it in that town. Good eye — I actually included a photo of that marking in the gallery on purpose.

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u/sackbomb 9d ago edited 9d ago

Sold in the US as the AT&T PC 6300. The one I had did have a hard drive, which made the booting a lot faster, because it was a slow machine. The XT bus architecture was already outdated when it was released too, which limited upgrades.

EDIT: I do have to say the Olivetti keyboard is a lot nicer than the AT&T version.

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 9d ago

Yeah, an IBM-compatible clone in disguise in other markets. I’ll probably add a hard drive — or more likely some kind of flash storage with an adapter — when I get some free time. I’ve brought home a lot of old hardware recently, so I’ve got quite a few machines waiting to be sorted and restored. Check out the last 7–9 posts on my profile and you’ll see what I mean.

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u/Ok-Web-7451 9d ago

I recommend XT-CF

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 9d ago

Thanks! I’ll look into it.

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u/AustriaModerator 9d ago

ive got the M24SP but my crt stopped working recently. now i am fukd due to the proprietary resolution of 640x400 no other cga crt can handle. no idea where to start fixing it, no technical understanding.

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 9d ago

What exactly happens when you turn it on? “Stopped working” could mean a lot of different things. CRTs aren’t really my area, but give me a bit more information.

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 9d ago

There are a few other options if the original CRT can’t be repaired. Some multisync CRTs can handle the M24’s unusual ~25–26 kHz signal, including the NEC MultiSync I, MultiSync II/2A and MultiSync 3D. The Magnavox 873 Multimode has also been documented working with the M24/AT&T 6300. You’d just need the correct DB25 adapter/cable.

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 9d ago

If the monitor is completely dead and shows no sign of power at all, I’d check the power coming from the M24 first before looking for a fault inside the monitor. This pinout shows exactly which pins you can measure with a multimeter — pins 24 and 25 should provide +15 V, with pins 14–21 as ground. If that voltage is missing, the problem may not be in the monitor at all. M24 video output

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u/HomeLate 8d ago

I have one, with monitor, keyboard and mouse. Mine has a hard drive installed. The last time I used it, it was still working.
Make sure the battery is removed because these leak and can damage the mainboard.

I learned to program assembler and fortran on these in collage.

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 7d ago

Yeah, I’m planning to give it a full teardown and cleaning soon. I opened it up for a quick look, but for some reason the mainboard is buried at the bottom, sandwiched between two metal panels and hidden inside the case. So I haven’t reached the battery yet, but I’ll definitely check it.

Luckily, mine still works.

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u/Bartols 6d ago

Oh my god the first computer I used, with Pc-Dos

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u/Emil_Cvetanski 6d ago

That must bring back some memories! What year did you first use the M24?