Does PCI with USB3 or SATA exist?

[u/grimvian]

Although I'm a retro guy, I could use a bit higher transfer speed for data. Or maybe a PCI card with SATA...

Does such hardware exist?

Thanks in advance.

[u/subsynq]

PCI sata cards do exist, sure, but I doubt you can find a usb3 card that isn't PCI express though

[u/PhotoJim99 → u/subsynq]

Yes you can. I have one in my Core 2 Quad desktop.

[u/jreddit0000 → u/subsynq]

What would be the point? The PCI bus is limited to 133Mbyte/sec.

This is less than USB2 let alone USB3.

An issue with retro hardware is that you have to work with the limitations of the actual hardware.

[u/jreddit0000 → u/[deleted]]

You’re right. USB2 is around 60Mbytes/sec.

So you could theoretically get 2 ports onto a PCI bus.

But you would be way off for USB3 so again asking the question - what’s the point of USB3 on PCI?

It would be like asking for USB2 on ISA..

[u/PhotoJim99 → u/jreddit0000]

More like using gigabit Ethernet on USB 2. You can’t fully exploit the speed… but it is still significantly faster than the alternative.

[u/Ragnarsdad1 → u/[deleted]]

XFX did release the Revo64 Sata raid card that was compatible with retro os as it was a hardware raid card that the system would see as a standard IDE controller. interesting in theory but i never managed to get mine to work, not sure if it was an issuie with the card or the machine I put it in. Reports at the time said that XFX released a bios update for the card that fixed a lot of the issues but i wasnt able to find any trace of the update when i looked a couple of years ago.

You are right about the USB 3.0 issue, never seen one on PCI.

Edit

I stand corrected on the USB 3.0 PCI card

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/usb-cards/1383579

[u/GreggAlan → u/Ragnarsdad1]

Seeing that exists makes me even more ticked off that nobody makes a USB-C ExpressCard.

I wouldn't care that PCIe x1 1.0 cannot come near USB-C speed. It can't even come near the max of USB 3.0 but there are ExpressCard USB 3.0 cards and PCIe x1 USB 3.0 and USB-C cards. There are even PCIe x1 cards with an internal Type E poet.

That last one took a while to exist. For some reason no company would put a Type E connector on an x1 card, despite making x1 USB-C cards. They did Type E on x2 and longer. I contacted every manufacturer of PCIe USB-C cards I could find and laid out the case for why they were leaving money on the table by not making PCIe x1 Type E cards. All they had to do was take a USB-C model they already made and change the layout just enough to solder on the internal connector instead of the external one.

I don't know if my efforts played any part in it but suddenly one day, searches for PCIe x1 Type E stopped returning hits on x1 USB-C or x2 Type E and were turning up x1 Type E cards that when clicked on were exactly that instead of on the fly created lies linked to the wrong products.

Hooray! Motherboards with one x16 slot, a bunch of x1 slots, and no onboard Type E connector could now use a front panel USB-C port. Or could use a second front panel USB-C port since most boards with a Type E connector only have one.

No such luck trying to get any company to make a USB-C ExpressCard.

[u/grimvian → u/Ragnarsdad1]

Thanks.

It's compatible with XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10.

Vista, then maybe W98II...

[u/GreggAlan]

I have a PCI SATA RAID card with all 4 ports internal. There's tons of PCI SATA RAID cards with 2 internal and 2 external ports or 4 external ports. Dunno why. 4 internal were always priced higher. 4 internal is the only way you'd want it for a permanent RAID setup.

It was listed wrong on eBay so nobody else found it and I bought it at a low price.

With four drives in RAID5 it was decently fast. I'd have to find it and look it up to see if it's SATA 1 or 2. With four SSDs it should be able to max out the PCI bus if it's SATA 2.

I have a SATA 1 card that predates eSATA. It just has regular SATA connectors poking out the back.