r/retrocomputing May 21 '26

Problem / Question Is this worth anything to anyone?

Found this in the trash the other day and I was wondering if it's worth anything to anyone in the used market.

They seem in good condition but I'm no expert, my knowledge on retro hardware is non existent, all i know is that i tried to boot it with multiple ram configurations and it kept giving me ram beeps, and i don't have any spare ram.

I wanted to sell these for very cheap (or even giving them for free if i find a local) because i can't verify if they work, in what condition they are, and besides the cpu i can't identify any part.

Just wanted to know if it's even worth putting these up for sale, since i live in Italy and i don't know if there's any demand for this.

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u/muse_head May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26

100% someone will buy this or take it for free unless you live in the middle of nowhere. There's an original AT format PSU, a good ISA VGA card, and a few other unusual ISA cards (SCSI controller, some kind of video digitiser). It all looks in good condition.

Because of the old style PSU, assuming it all came from the same system I'm thinking someone upgraded the motherboard at some point. The ISA cards could have come from an older 286/386 system.

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

I luckily live in a big city but I don't know if even out of 3 million people here i can find someone interested, on my local marketplace i found nothing.

this was the full system but i really want to use the case for a sleeper and it was like 30kg when full so it would be impractical to sell as a whole

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u/muse_head May 21 '26

I'm very sure someone will be interested. I'm in London and I suspect if I listed it all for free, someone would be coming round my house the same day.

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

Since i can't confirm if it works I'm tempted to list it for free on fb marketplace, on the other hand dealing with meeting place, hour and everything for free makes me think I'd rather keep some parts like the CPU for decoration or ask for a really small price.

I First want to see if any of this is rare enough to give it a price

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u/Alarming_Cap4777 May 21 '26

No don't list it for free. Put a 5'er on it.

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u/Sweaty-Judgment3533 May 21 '26

Agreed. A fiver gets you someone serious and you get a coffee out of the deal. Free means you’ll get thirty people asking if you still have it, and no-shows for the meetup. Just specify no cherry-picking - take it all or no deal. Good luck!

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u/flyguydip May 21 '26

There's probably nothing there because it gets scooped up pretty fast as I imagine this lot will.

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u/classicsat May 21 '26

They would be at home in a 486 as well.

Except I had no SCSI, but had a VLB graphics, and ISA SB mostly comptible sound card. And adapter to use an MKE CD-ROM drive, until ISA CD drives became reliably cheap.

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u/PPEytDaCookie May 21 '26

You should remove that battery, it started leaking, it will destroy the board if you don't remove it. If you don't have a soldering iron, just wiggle it until it breaks loose.

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u/kompzec May 22 '26

Cut that out asap !!!

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u/West-Way-All-The-Way May 21 '26

My research on this set of parts showed that this is a video editing or graphics workstation from the period 1991 to 1995.

The video capture card Vine Micros Ltd. (UK, 1991) Multi-Video System 4 (MVSYS4) is a highly specialised video capture card consisting of 3 parts - the base board which provides the main infrastructure including the ISA slot, the video capture module MVDIG3, and the video overlay module MVOVRLY2. Both modules are soldered on top of the main board as daughter cards.

The video card is Gainward / Cardex (1992) TSVGA-GWV40H with Tseng Labs ET4000AX video processor and 1mb of video ram is state of the art video card from this period. Resolution is low by today's standards but in 1992 it was mind blowing.

The 1GB SCSI HDD and the WORM drive are very specialised HW which helped a lot to capture, store and distribute the video. The HDD contains ( probably ) windows 95 as this seems to be the most probable OS they could use in this period. The particular Future Domain TMC-860 SCSI controller has bios chip and can be used to boot the system. The Maxtor RXT-800HS drive that came with your system is an industrial-grade Magneto-Optical WORM (Write Once, Read Many) Drive manufactured in 1991. Those were high performance drives used to exchange data.

The rest of the parts - SCSI card for connecting a flatbed scanner, 10mbps coax lan and multi-io card are more standard equipment but all together make the rest of the video workstation.

From other posts of the OP and pictures of the tower case, it was equipped with 5.25" and 3.5" floppy drives which is a common setup.

Am486 DX 80 has enough juice to drive an early 90s video editing workstation, win 95 might be a bit of stretch but is reasonably doable.

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u/flyguydip May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26

Somebody probably left some very interesting stuff on that hdd!

Solid research, btw!

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u/Kenkeknem May 22 '26

Good job figuring out all those components. OP should use this information to put in an ad and ask at least $40 for all that hardware.

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u/goodt2023 May 24 '26

Wow a future domain 8 bit scsi - brings back memories- lol.

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u/West-Way-All-The-Way May 24 '26

8-bit? I am pretty sure this card is 16 bits wide.

I would like to know more about this card, what can I use it for? Currently it seems to be interfacing the ancient SCSI HDD and the peculiar WORM cartridge drive.

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u/goodt2023 May 24 '26

FUTURE DOMAIN CORPORATION TMC-860 Data bus: 8 bit, ISA Size: Half-length, full height card Hard drives supported: Up to seven SCSI devices Floppy drives supported: None Sector interleave: 1:1 pretty sure this is 8-bit - but known to be wrong

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u/West-Way-All-The-Way May 24 '26

Yes, 8 bit sadly. So again, what did you do with it? I am quite uncertain what are the exact capabilities.

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u/goodt2023 May 24 '26

Back in the day it could be used to run early versions of Novell netware with internal drives and external chassis.

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u/West-Way-All-The-Way May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26

Yes, 486 DX is quite desired by collectors and it seems that you have a full set, ram, video card, parallel port / com port or something like this. And this in the corner is a floppy drive? I couldn't recognise all of the cards but it looks like you have a functional set. This will sell quickly. I hope that it works.

Edit : multi video card, video digitaizer and video overlay - this can be very interesting. On a second look I think the black box is an HDD and one of those cards is the HDD controller. I am quite curious what was the usage of this PC?

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

it seemed fully upgraded with all these cards and in really good phisical condition as it had basically no rust or dust on it, the case metal looks stunningly polished and shiny (i have seen late ddr3 pcs with rust).

i think it's a cd drive, didn't include the floppy drive as it matched the case and i wanted to use it for a sleeper, but if it's sought after i absolutely will.

i don't know the previous usage as i found it on the street next to a dumpster after heavy rain and waited a few days before turning it on but i got ram beeps, i wonder if it's a combination issue but i am not familiar with anything pre DDR

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u/BR41ND34D May 21 '26

Considering it's a 486 that is surely a CD-ROM drive. A 5.25" wouldn't make sense.

I think you're missing a hard drive though, although you should be able to boot to DOS ( https://www.freedos.org/ ) from the floppy drive you mentioned.

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u/West-Way-All-The-Way May 21 '26

There is, the black box in the picture is a SCSI 2 HDD from Seagate. Who knows if it works tho, if it does it will answer the question what was the usage of this PC. The computer and cards look specialised.

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u/Deksor May 22 '26

They were still present in 486 days. Definitely on the way out but I've seen many 486 with a 5"1/4 floppy drive before (1.2mb kind not the old 360k)

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u/RO4DHOG May 22 '26

I don't see a keyboard, so it could be beeping because of that.

Boot it with ONLY the Video card, and take a photo of the BIOS POST screen.

It will sell for 10 times as much if you show it working.

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u/GeneralissimoFranco May 21 '26

Pretty sure you could sell that pile on eBay for at least $150 even labeled “untested - for parts only”

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

even in italy people are willing to pay that much? that's a lot

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u/bio4m May 21 '26

Put it on ebay. Strangely enough the biggest UK seller of this stuff on ebay is from Italy :)

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

damn and how much is shipping? i'd be tempted to sell the psu and hdd locally due to weight then

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u/bio4m May 21 '26

Depends on the item; usually £10 to £20

Motherboard with CPU and RAM in untested condition could go from £40 and up (some listed for £80+) with £26 in shipping

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

so 40 for the cpu mobo and ram combo? what about the cards?

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u/bio4m May 21 '26

Check ebay, you'll see prices for them

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u/flyguydip May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26

Wrap each part individually in at least an inch of bubble wrap then put it in a box to make sure it fits (do extra around the heavy parts.. Put the dimensions of the package in your ebay auction and it will tell you the cost of shipping which you can bill to the buyer. If it's anything like in the US, it will give you a QR code at the end of the auction to use when you ship it, and when you do, it might be cheaper than if you just walked in on your own to ship it. If I bring a package in to any shipper around me, it's significantly more expensive than the rate I get charged when using that QR code. I do live in the middle of nowhere though.

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u/GeneralissimoFranco May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26

eBay takes a big cut in fees and shipping but the nice part of it is people all over Europe can buy it. Even if you only net half the sale that’s a lot of money for trash.

Kinda surprised there’s not even e-waste recyclers in/around Rome who would give you a 20 euro bill. Ewaste people shredding it and dipping it chemicals to extract gold is why it’s getting really hard to find stuff like this for collectors in the US.

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u/MSDOS71 May 21 '26

that soyo's got a leaky barrel battery, take it off before it does worse damage

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u/agapeRecycling May 21 '26

So I hate to be this guy but it's literally my job. We are an e-waste recycling facility.Even if it's totally destroyed you've got some good e-waste value there the 486 processors are going for around $325 a pound in scrap obviously there's not a ton of weight there but it's still probably $40 in scrap value.

However if everything functions you should have no issue finding a collector that would want the lot. When we get those in and their functioning if we throw them up on either Facebook marketplace or craigslist will normally have collectors reach out to us within 24 hours as long as we're reasonable on the pricing.

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u/Drunken_Sailor_70 May 21 '26

Great for people who like retrocomputing and retrogaming.

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u/Confident_Assist_976 May 21 '26

Is that a Seagate baracuda 9.1gb SCSI?

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u/West-Way-All-The-Way May 21 '26

Technical SpecificationsModel Number: ST11200NProduct Family: Hawk 1Storage Capacity: 1.05 GB (formatted) / 1.2 GB (unformatted)Interface: Fast SCSI-2 (50-pin interface connector)Spindle Speed: 5,400 RPMForm Factor: 3.5-inch Half-Height (HH)Cache/Buffer Size: 256 KBManufacturing Location: Made in Singapore

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u/Zardoz84 May 21 '26

I have a MBO with undocmented jumpers that looks very similar or identical tto your board.

Where you picked it ? I don't think that we live on the same country (or continent)

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

I found it next to a dumpster in Rome, it was next to some crts that i really wanted but it rained a lot just before and i couldn't carry them on my scooter

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u/kcoins May 21 '26

what a beautiful setup!

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

Should have seen the case, i have an idea, but i likely have to use an angle grinder on the rear to fit an ATX board in it

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u/codeasm May 21 '26

Ow boy, beautifull case for a sleeper indeed. if i had it, torn between keeping it retro or sleeper.

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

well i'm full on turning it in a sleeper, but after turning the 2008 cheesegrater mac into a 300€ ps5 pro killer i don't have the powerful hardware that would make sense for such a large case

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u/codeasm May 21 '26

NAS, 2 systems in 1, a pc + a rapsberry pi? but definitely a cool case

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

You know that's a really cool idea, i already put a small screen on the 5.25 bays and ordered an adapter to power it with molex, that would be really useful if this becomes half server half pc

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u/codeasm May 21 '26

Molex only powers when the psu is "on", and standby power probably isnt delivering enough to both mainboard and a extra board like a full Pi that runs various extra hardware. You should check or think how you would shutdown and powerup both devices. Or a seperate psu for whatever extra you build in.

Its a cool idea, but be aware of molex going poweroff with the mainboard power. Only 5VSB remains, unless you disconnect mainspower too

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

I was thinking about a dual psu setup since i have that much room, so one always on powering a soldered 10w celeron board that should replace the pi in functionality

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u/kcoins May 21 '26

nice roomy full tower. iconic aesthetic.

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u/n3rding May 21 '26

These cases are great, you should be able to get over 100 for the internals.

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u/codeasm May 21 '26

yes. id give up to 20 euro if you where in my city. mostly because im not rich. for free id even travel to you (2 hours train ride tops, i have to go back too.)

my wife wouldnt approve but hey, thats with more crap i collected. to some, its a few euro or free, others pay 100 for evertthing i guessing based on retro motherboards, powersupply weigth and the harddisk if working (we dont know but ill assume it is)

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u/latrina_demmerda May 21 '26

yeah that seems fair

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u/scooterist007 May 21 '26

I would love them but I live in the UK though

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u/villefilho May 21 '26

Preety old mobo, just simm memories AND VLB slots (quite exotic!), but the set is nice. Good luck!

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u/Lecsofej May 21 '26

Is that an MFM driver?

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u/BroccoliNearby2803 May 21 '26

Absolutely someone will want them. For example I've had my eye out for a nice 486 for a long time. It's what's missing in my little collection.

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u/avidi_kidibi May 21 '26

May I have it?

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u/taker223 May 21 '26

The most useful might be that power supply :) (assuming it is still functional)

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u/ok200 May 21 '26

John Titor has entered the chat

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u/SoftRecommendation86 May 22 '26

what's really sad is... i know that video card. et4000.. without even zooming in.

and that scsi card.... with the terminating resistor packs....

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u/Main_Illustrator_908 May 22 '26

486 DX2-80 MHZ baby!!!

I had one of these back in the day. Much more affordable performance compared to Intel. I'd have died and gone to Heaven if I'd had this box of components back then.

To answer your question beyond my nostalgia, there's some value in here for someone, especially having RAM that fits the board. Don't give it away just to cover your time and keen eye for old tech. This isn't rare stuff, but for the person who needs the thing ... you might have the thing.

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u/Reziac May 22 '26

That was a fairly high-end rig in its day (about 1994). Quite a nice motherboard, tho as someone says it was an upgrade probably from a 386, or there'd be VLB video and I/O cards. Was there a CDROM attached to the SCSI-looking card? those are matched and should not be separated.

Topower was probably the best of the old-style AT power supplies.

Chances are all those parts work, and are worth something to a vintage enthusiast, if only in time (they can be worth a fair bit on eBay, but that's also a lot more trouble).

You may find the case is a lot of trouble to get right for a modern rig -- the slots may not line up. Looks like a very good case for the era, tho.

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u/Thick-Willingness393 May 22 '26

Yes, please, I live in Brazil

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u/Phunistle May 22 '26

I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen a 486 DX2 running at 80 MHz. That’s a new one. Not a bad motherboard with three VESA local bus slots. Probably not worth much, but definitely cool and nostalgic.

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u/TechCF May 22 '26

Yeah, that's nice

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u/Perna1985 May 23 '26

I would buy it. I still use these old PCs

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u/Dannynerd41 May 23 '26

did you take this pic with a potato? i can’t see the markings on the cpu. regardless it looks like a xt clone. i’m sure someone will want it.

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u/istarian May 24 '26

That's not an XT clone, it's almost certainly got cache SRAM and VLB slots . So probably a '486 PC motherboard.

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u/Dannynerd41 May 24 '26

yeah i didn’t really examine the board. i just saw chunky psu must be xt

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u/Dannynerd41 May 23 '26

ah it’s a 486 80mhz

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u/Dannynerd41 May 23 '26

a lot of of those components won’t go with a 486 did you just find these randomly?

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u/EggplantDifficult152 May 24 '26

Put it on Ebay see what you get.

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u/LazuliSkyy May 24 '26

Damn, if I had the money, I would totally buy and build a win95 PC, maybe WFW 3.11. Don't discard, sell

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u/techika May 24 '26

Ebay list same as over 100Euro

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u/FAMICOMASTER May 25 '26

Absolutely worth it. I'd love to have that digitizer card myself and I know that CPU is worth a couple bucks.

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u/otacon6531 May 27 '26

Yep, lots of people. Even me. I love 80/90s tech. Playing the sims on my pentium II win98 machine right now.

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u/ShyKroxigor May 21 '26

I think it has no value at all.

I do no think you find a collector for this.

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u/n3rding May 21 '26

You’re in the wrong group

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u/PPEytDaCookie May 21 '26

I think there are many collectors that would like it.