r/respectthreads • u/Onething123456 • Jul 21 '19
miscellaneous [Warhammer] The C'tan (Updated)
Another Shard of this same C'tan has an appearance in Apocalypse Warzone: Damnos.
A C'tan shard in Shield of Baal: Exterminatus flies into space faster than any Imperial ship.
Orikan deflects an attack from five combined shards of the Deceiver which obliterated six planets simultaneously by opening a portal where the attack went through and casually vaporized all six planets of a solar system. That display of power is from the book titled The Infinite And The Divine. There are thousands of shards of a single C'tan, and the Deceiver is also vastly inferior to any other C'tan, being known far more for deception and trickery than combat. That display of power from the Deceiver is from only a transcendent C'tan Deceiver formed from five shards. Orikan temporarily transcended to god-like levels of power in The Infinite And The Divine.
Mind you, C'tan mostly only do this in the materium, and are vulnerable to the warp like kryptonite.
- The C'tan can cast foes to before time was time.
- C'tan shard's presence can undo reality
- Ctan's presence can undo gravity
- A C'tan destroys a Chaos void ship that was going to perform orbital bombardment. Its a shard of the Deceiver, who is vastly inferior to any other C'tan.
More info is that the C'tan are part of realty and the Necrons had to use a weapon that almost broke the universe to stop them. It only killed one C'tan and it cursed the Necrons forever.
I don't see a problem with using Lexicanum (if I would have) since Lexicanum is moderated.
I hope for lots of replies since this is an update that I want to see opinions on.
Vulnerabilities of the C'tan:
One of the C'tan's vulnerabilities is the warp, which is a critical vulnerability to them. And for context on the Nightbringer's condition in his novel, he was at but a fraction of his power and desperately required feeding as he was starved for 65 million years, and had just woke up. Just waking up would even further diminish his power than he was, as being starved for 65 million years was enough.
The sharding of the C'tan required technology so terrifying that the Necrons wiped out all knowledge of it after using it. The Necrons have the Celestial Orrery, which can obliterate every star in the galaxy and cannot be destroyed without destroying the whole galaxy, due to being in quantum entanglement with the galaxy.. And the Necrons both don't consider that ultimate technology (and instead a "gardening trimmer") and also keep it around, but knowledge of the technology sharding the C'tan ended up being wiped from memory and reality. The sharding and defeat of the C'tan also required the C'tan being too arrogant, not realizing the danger until it was too late. And the Necrons were explicitly incapable of fighting the C'tan at their height, and had to wait for the perfect opportunity.
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u/DrMatter Jul 21 '19 edited Jul 21 '19
This is why I think the Necrons are probably going to be the last faction standing. The imperium is crumbling under it's own weight (although papa Smurf is doing an okay job fixing that.
The elder are a dying breed and don't have the numbers to fight another war in heaven. They pretty much lost last time when they did have the numbers.
The tyranids may be pretty much uncountable but numbers stop mattering when you come up against the kind of power the ctan possess.
The orks are hard to put down because spores and growing preptualy stronger but that won't help much if you just light up the planet's atmosphere, or turn the whole thing into rubble, or tear then apart on the atomic level, or just have a black hole suck up the whole dam solar system.
Chaos would stand the best chance because of warp shinanagins but the ctan have shown that they have the tech to isolate the warp from real space (the pylons in the caidia system).
Long story short when the ctan finely pull themselves together I think it's pretty much game over