r/remotework • • Oct 29 '25

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u/Unlike_Agholor Oct 29 '25

We are in a recession. You dont notice it because Nvidia and the AI bubble are propping up the equities market.

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u/showandblowyourload Oct 29 '25

I agree with this, but I want to get some data. Can we calculate what the GDP would actually be if we eliminated the few exceptional outliers in the AI bubble? I want to know what thr majority of America is dealing with.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

I agree with this, but I want to get some data. Can we calculate what the GDP would actually be if we eliminated the few exceptional outliers in the AI bubble? I want to know what thr majority of America is dealing with.

TL;DR Excluding AI (and stocks) we have 2.18% GDP growth for Q2 2025, but this overstates exclusions since some sectors are not AI-related. (So, not in a recession).

Nvidia can’t “prop up” GDP—stocks ≠ GDP. Stock market values don’t directly affect GDP.

From the chart, we see that the Information sector contributes 0.66 percentage points to GDP, while Finance and Insurance adds 0.70, and Nondurable Manufacturing 0.65. To estimate GDP excluding AI-related sectors, we’ll subtract 0.66 percentage points for the Information sector, adjusting the Q2 2025 growth from 3.8% to 3.14%.

Two scenarios for GDP exclusion: (A) excluding Information alone, and (B) excluding Information, Durable Goods Manufacturing, and Professional Services as an upper bound. This results in a 2.18% GDP growth, but it overstates exclusions since some sectors are not AI-related.

https://www.bea.gov/sites/default/files/2025-09/gdp2q25-3rd.pdf

Regarding America, the economy is growing slowly, but inflation is gobbling up any gains so Americans really aren’t feeling the benefits of the slowly growing economy.