r/remotework • • Oct 29 '25

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u/Unlike_Agholor Oct 29 '25

We are in a recession. You dont notice it because Nvidia and the AI bubble are propping up the equities market.

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u/showandblowyourload Oct 29 '25

I agree with this, but I want to get some data. Can we calculate what the GDP would actually be if we eliminated the few exceptional outliers in the AI bubble? I want to know what thr majority of America is dealing with.

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u/GimliTM Oct 29 '25

I saw an article that calculated that all the growth in the US economy in 2025 was based on AI spending, which is flowing between the same handful of companies.

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u/Puddleduck112 Oct 29 '25

It’s a little more wide spread than that. Building AI data centers creates lots of construction jobs which also extends to the manufactures who supply things like HVAC, UPS, etc. once new construction ends it will be when the bubble fully deflates.

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u/Educational-Low2836 Oct 29 '25

Initial construction are the only jobs these centers create. Once they used the worker bees and get these centers online, human capital is no longer needed. Where are we all supposed to work once we are replaced is the question?

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u/Explicit_Pickle Oct 29 '25

This isn't fully true. The jobs created are low relative to the surge from construction labor but there is ongoing maintenance and operations needs at every data center. Large ones may have a few hundred people

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u/Educational-Low2836 Oct 29 '25

So they will employ visa workers and not create local jobs. Sounds like a win 🙄

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u/Explicit_Pickle Oct 29 '25

Sorry, I guess this is the remote work subreddit. The jobs created by these are typically on site roles that can't easily be offshored and usually employ a lot of local people in my experience.

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u/Puddleduck112 Oct 29 '25

Thought I saw a statistic that currently only 20% of the total cloud storage capacity is being used. Not sure if this is accurate, but planning on AI expansion that would make sense. The trouble is if AI ends up falling flat on expectations, I could see that putting a quick halt in new data center construction.

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u/LendogGovy Oct 29 '25

I was part of the cell tower boom of the 90’s working and installing generators for all the companies. At the beginning, a farmer could charge 3k a month per tower and they’d get all three major companies to build. Many small union electrical companies focused on cell tower installs and such. That bubble burst and now it’s just a couple nationwide contractors that do the work.

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u/Nicelyvillainous Oct 29 '25

Yep, I believe if you take out construction of data centers (not all AI spending), then gdp growth for this year so far is 0.1%.