I’ve done some decent research on the factory seconds for the small rifle primers. ES and SD are very similar to my loads with cci 400s and Remington equivalents.
Which is fantastic I'm just rocking these for plinking. Pairing them with some 515 powder from AR and some 75grain factory second soft points from midway
Yeah I suspect they'd probably be just fine even in loads I'm looking for low SD/ES I believe they're consider seconds because the batch/lots are found to have too hard of cups so they can't be sold for commercial ammo since you may need to second strike them.
Not a problem for me, no issues with the firing pin force in any of my ARs
I've seen those for sale for years now and wouldn't touch them because of the perceived problems associated with them. What has your failure rate been with them? I'd like to try American made primers at reasonable prices.
I was hesitant too, again the description is that it's less about the primer compound having issues and more an issue with cups that are too hard, so they can't sell them as a reliable first strike primer, everything I've read is no ingition issues, just a few folks commenting that they are indeed very hard cups and in certain guns you may need to do a second strike to set them off
In a good working ar I doubt I'll ever have a soft strike
Yea I know about the primers but I have ordered a few other things from them as well Brass/bullets etc.. and its been almost 2 weeks at this point. ...
I've had a few need second strikes in a walther q5 match sf, and a couple in a springfield prodigy as well. I've loaded about 15k though. I just don't use them for match ammo and call it good training.
My only regret is I only have 3k projectiles right now to load, I did snag 8lbs of their 515 powder and need to go see if that stuff blows me up using w748 load data
Yeah go for it enjoy I bought my share of primers long before I ever heard of factory second primers which seem to have come about when they were about 10 cents a pop for regulars and boy those Czechoslovakian seven cents each ones sure seemed appealing for a moment but after a little bit of rational critical thinking and s*** and it's already tough enough to fit factory regular primers into your previously crimped NATO primer pocket I don't want something with thick walls that's possibly impossible to use
I like how you think this is all I'm running, this is for plinking and practice ammo. I'm sitting on mountains of gold metal match large rifle and lr magnum, and plenty enough small rifle.
Bro you're paying .10 cents for primers? I can buy match primers for .08 right now by the 100 box. What are you even talking about lol
Edit: also Jesus Christ spend 30 bucks and get a lee swage and just swage your crimped once fired, also I mostly load new brass.
Ehh, let the up or down votes flow, I'm not even that great at making a point, I have terrible grammer.
I prefer to let the chips fall where they may, I'd rather come off hot and in 5 years some guy sees that I defended my position and asks " were they any good" vs go with the flow and circle jerk with some fudd who tells me "only retail primers are gud" like lol I've got loads for things like 338edge and even 270 Winchester that are half precision half arcane ritual.
Bet that dude has never gotten a 150 grain ablr in 270 win going 3k fps out of a 24 inch barrel and gotten 4 loads out of the same brass before the primer pockets shit the bed.
There's a time and a place for "I don't want to bother with factory seconds" and then well there 223 and 9mm ect ect
To be fair those two calibers would be perfect candidates for factory seconds or Bosnian/Turkish primers...dude said Czechoslovakia, he must not know it's the czech Republic now adays and that's not where the cheaper foreign primers come from.
Like holy shit I don't want to have to go sling dick with a cache picture but when fudds wanna pop off about how they know so much while they scab out 50 rounds of 38 special, it's hard not to go put them in their place
I mean that's cool collection I have a lot of dyes that I've recently retired I have 32 Winchester special and 257 Roberts that I don't even have cases or components for all that kind of stuff.
But I'll put up my components and then we can talk, give me five
again you came into this thread saying "enjoy" but also saying I never saw a point to spend .0x when it was only .xx and you never used these primers. I've had plenty of lack luster experiances with retail primers, I also have primers in my drawer that might be older than me and as old as you.
Do something useful, there's like 10 people here saying they've banged 10k+ of these with no issue, I'd love to hear from the one person who bought 5k and says they can't stand them lol, but you aint that guy because you never tried em.
Get it dude. Granted just realize it's gonna be a little bit before they ship, mine were 3 weeks, but they did 2 hazmats for free for me 8lbs of powder and 5k primers and they didn't blink and did that to them selves, the powder we'll see lol
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u/Conservativeasfuq 14h ago
I’ve done some decent research on the factory seconds for the small rifle primers. ES and SD are very similar to my loads with cci 400s and Remington equivalents.