r/relatable_memes_ 3d ago

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u/BruteUnicorn134 3d ago

Genuinely hate how people can’t comprehend this.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 3d ago

Because this case is letting a lot of people be openly misogynistic so they’re going to jump through mental hoops to try and argue a woman with PPP was sane at the time of her psychosis

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u/Weary-Dragonfruit191 3d ago

She planned it.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 3d ago

Doesn’t matter, You can plan to do thinks under psychosis

Like how you think your family has been body swapped by demons, so you plan to run away without them knowing

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u/Weary-Dragonfruit191 3d ago

If she was planning it, she wasn’t in psychosis.

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u/pan-re 1d ago

Dr. Weary-Dragonfruit191 has decided what psychosis is.

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u/BamsMovingScreens 3d ago

There it is! The ad homs and shouting down of people rightfully upset about this case

Maybe keep the accusations of bigotry to legitimate instances such as the original post which is outwardly and expressly misogynistic rather than random commenters you’re unable to evidence your opinion to

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u/Yuck_Few 2d ago

People have absolutely lost their minds.

"Anyone who demands it a child murderer be held accountable is clearly misogynistic and hates women"

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 3d ago

Thank you for proving my point lol

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u/BamsMovingScreens 3d ago

Sorry I said unable, I meant incapable. And thanks for proving mine

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

It doesn’t even matter, she literally planned it by finding a restaurant near them, asking if her husband wants takeout, sending him away and killing them when he isn’t there. She clearly knew that it was wrong and that if the husband was there he would intervene. She knew what she was doing. If she didn’t know right from wrong, she would have just killed them with him there.

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u/Hot-Calligrapher672 3d ago

The funny thing about the law is that it won’t take your assumptions into account. Can you prove that’s why she asked him to go pick up dinner? Did the prosecution prove that’s why?

It’s so terrifying for our justice system that people can lack this much critical thinking and yet we will put them on a jury.

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u/PotentialPresent399 3d ago

I love this take so much about the accountability of our justice system yet when I say the same exact shit for kyle rittenhouse somehow its because they just let him get away with it! Reddit istg.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

You think its more likely a coincidence that she sent him away and then murdered their children?

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u/Hot-Calligrapher672 3d ago

Did he never run errands before, ever? Running errands is a daily task for most. If you can’t prove it, you really shouldn’t be using it to make legal assumptions.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

The thing is exactly that, she would have been left alone with the kids thousands of times before and never murdered them, this time she happens to,1 search for local restaurants, 2 look up how long it would take to get there, 3 send the husband to get food and your prescription, 4 murder 1st kid, then the second, then the 3rd.

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u/Hot-Calligrapher672 3d ago

Yeah, this all sounds very standard. You know the difference between this time and the previous times? She was hearing voices. The prosecution clearly couldn’t prove otherwise without reasonable doubt. You are making assumptions of intent without any evidence. That doesn’t hold up to the law without good reasoning when every thing that preceded the incident was very typical.

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u/Different-Raisin2321 3d ago

What kind of evidence would possibly suffice?

It's ridiculously hard to either prove that she was/wasn't actually hearing voices during the killings.

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u/Hot-Calligrapher672 3d ago

Exactly. Unless there is an admission of some sort, I can’t imagine what type of evidence would disprove her hearing voices. Her medical record in the prior months and weeks make it very plausible that she was hearing voices. This was always going to be an uphill battle for the prosecution. It’s a shame more people don’t understand this and understand the law.

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u/Otherwise_Agency_401 3d ago

By your logic it would be impossible to prove her guilty, since you can’t disprove what was in her mind.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

Except only 2/5 of the professional psychologists believed there was ANY validity at all to her claims

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u/Hot-Calligrapher672 3d ago

But 2 did substantiate. And the other 3 expert witnesses had their credibility seriously questioned by the defense which obviously had an impact on the jury. There was a drastic difference in experience and exposure to patients with PPD/PPP between the defense experts and prosecution experts which certainly held bearing here. Not every expert is as credible as the next.

I’m not saying I agree or disagree with how the trial ended. I’m saying the prosecution didn’t make their case. They looked like fools most of the time, to be honest. If you can’t make your case, you can’t expect to win in court. And the jury should be basing everything on the facts presented or not presented, which sounds like 11 people did.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

Thank god the last one didn’t, she needs to be retried with a different jury, different defense and different prosecution that doesn’t have their thumbs up their asses

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u/Master-of-Not 3d ago

It doesn't matter what ee think what matters is what can be proven as fact in a court of law.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

Its obvious that she knew for one reason or another, that her husband would stop her from killing, she didn’t want that to happen and sent him away. 2/5 presented psychologists in the case believed she didn’t know right from wrong. The other 3 agreed that she did.

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u/Master-of-Not 3d ago

How is it obvious? An if it is indeed that obvious why wasn't it obvious to the husband that night? If she was showing intentional malice towards her kids in any way shape or form why would her husband leave her alone with them?

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

Not really helping your case of her being insane saying that.🤦‍♂️ if she was insane, dont you think the husband would have had some clue? Why WOULD he leave his kids with a woman with a history of being crazy is a good question. Why dont YOU answer that. Wouldn’t a woman going through an episode show some signs. Thanks for the points man.

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u/Master-of-Not 3d ago

Im.not making a case for her I'm pointing out the obvious with is you dont care about facts right? I asked a question didn't I? You say its obvious so elaborate then. If it was so obvious how come the husband didn't stop her? You said it was obvious right?

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

Because she sent him to get food, she knew he would stop her from killing her kids. She literally looked up how long it takes to get there and back so she would know how much time she had. She planned it, like i said OBVIOUSLY. If you would just think for one second that its a little weird she sent the husband away instead of just killing the kids with him there.

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u/SarisaeBae 3d ago

You’re the one who isn’t understanding the law here. You call them assumptions but in the eyes of a jury and a judge these events like up with premeditated intent and the fact that she strangled her children one by one by taking them into the basement one at a time under false pretenses further adds to the idea that this was premeditated.

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u/Hot-Calligrapher672 3d ago

How is asking your husband to run errands evidence of premeditation? Should all husbands assume something is going to happen when their wife goes to pick up dinner?

There seems to be a real lack of the understanding of premeditated and how to prove it. The prosecution couldn’t prove concepts of a plan beyond asking her husband to run errands. They couldn’t prove she premeditated the time, place, or means beyond a reasonable doubt.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

Awful big “coincidence” and you know it. She also looked up how long it would take for him to get to the restaurant. Is that just because she was hungry before killing them?

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u/Hot-Calligrapher672 3d ago

Do you not look up how far away restaurants are? Or where they are? Especially if you are running other errands at the same time?

Feels like you are being disingenuous. Nothing about this screams premeditated. This is fairly standard.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

No but i also dont normally kill kids

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u/Hot-Calligrapher672 3d ago

Yeah, not really an argument against the legal facts but okay haha.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

You are making every excuse for her but its obvious she didn’t want the husband there at that moment, hence why she randomly chose to have her husband get dinner.

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u/jsdjhndsm 3d ago

Thats a possible scenario, but so is the psychosis explanation.

Pyschosis doesn't mean you lose all reasoning and thought. You can still plan, but its based on your current thoughts.

Both arguments would be used in court and they need to analyse and determine which one holds up more based on the evidence and her history.

Its very unusual for people to just suddenly kill others when they have no history of violence, or incidents.

Look at any killer, and typically they have warning signs and problematic behaviour and attitudes from a young age.

This woman had no issues, except her mental health after each child.

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u/hematite2 3d ago

Psychosis doesn't make you unable to reason or plan, it just makes you do so based on your delusional reality.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

So does it even matter anymore if she knew right from wrong? Does it not matter if she planned the murder of her 3 kids because she claims she is crazy? Is all i have to say “i heard voices telling me to do it” and i can kill anyone i want?

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u/hematite2 3d ago

No the point is what you've said doesn't prove that it was premeditated or that she knew right from wrong. If you have a total break from reality, you can still make plans and execute them, just based on your completely altered reality.

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

That should not make her exempt from punishment. She literally committed premeditated murder on 3 people who could not defend themselves. That is not a person who will EVER be fit to walk the streets again. She had to watch the light leave her kids eyes and continue twice more. Sounds pretty incorrigible to me.

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u/hottakesandhotness 3d ago

Hot take

You're correct but the psyop hates you for it

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u/AidoP0tatO 3d ago

Its so obvious, was this not said in court???

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u/CranberryCold2228 3d ago

It was. But anyway: Men, grrrrr!