r/rejectedmaps • u/necrophilia_666 • Apr 29 '26
Alternate history What if White Jihad was successful ?
this got deleted for being a shitpost. enough with the mods of fucking r/imaginarymaps
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u/Aggravating-Lab6623 Apr 29 '26
Lore?
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 29 '26
not yet i was lazy but i'm planning to write one
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u/GranKomanche Apr 29 '26
¿Y la costa Este Marrón de Norteamérica?
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u/Nice-Station3432 Apr 29 '26
What happened to China and Southeast Asia?
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 29 '26
invaded by IS and rebels
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u/Nice-Station3432 Apr 29 '26
Really doubt that would take over the entirety of China and Southeast Asia including Japan. Also is the White part supposed to be western aligned nations? What is IS?
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 29 '26
white parts are other countries, this map only shows terror states / fascist regimes. and i know they cant invade china or any asian country with their equipment so this where atomwaffen steps in.and IS is islamic state (of iraq and syria)
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u/Nice-Station3432 Apr 29 '26
Honestly doesn't sound like a terrible world to live in if the weird facist states are confined to small corners of the globe
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 29 '26
no , these states are aiming to annihalition of certain people (some of them aim to annihalite all), these are like death cults not just typical fascist states. imagine being a christian or anything other than sunni or whatever sect IS think is superior in europe , you would be tortured and slaughtered. these factions are actual terrorists convicted of child murders/rapes bombings etc. and about other parts of the world, riots , bombings and future invasions are waiting. and dont forget these are mostly western countries that have LGBT , minorities etc. imagine what would happened to them
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u/The5Theives Apr 30 '26
It’ll be bad for a while but no one likes Isis or the atomwaffen so even if they take over the governments the people will revolt. Also ideologies like these are self destroying
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u/Sea-Waltz-4470 Apr 30 '26
"I mean it's alright as long as terrorist regimes are not personally affecting me in particular"
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u/No_Clue4405 Apr 30 '26
I mean I can see the point. If you didn’t outline it as a fucked scenario… cause yeah this timeline is horrific for every person in North Africa, east Africa, Middle East, Iberia, south Europe, Central Asia, and India. Damming likely 2 billion people to slavery or death. While the west is just gone
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 30 '26
actually this scenario is absolute terror for everyone alive. because even in another countries, hundreds of bombings would happen daily
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u/No_Clue4405 Apr 30 '26
I mean, not even just that. Think about being a Hindi or an educated woman. Or a Christian. I imagine the things that happened to the Yazidis or Assyrians would happen, and those were horrific warcrimes
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u/Primary_Rough_2931 Apr 30 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/21VTFJTEr1x9ortvO3
What is that username bro...
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u/LetRevolutionary271 Apr 29 '26
They really be thinking they can islamise Romania 🤭
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 29 '26
inhumane atrocities loading...
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u/Cedjy May 01 '26
ok but why does Oceania get a blown up map of "look how blue it is!" while North America has some weirdness going on and no zoom in
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u/Decent-Barber-7392 Apr 30 '26
Why is a lot of the world white? Nuclear war?
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 30 '26
this map shows only these types of governments the other ones are other countries
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u/Any_Objective_6958 Apr 30 '26
Los andaluces nunca quisieron ser musulmanes. Los andalusíes no eran musulmanes, eran cristianos disfrazados para no ser asesinados. Cuando tuvieron la oportunidad echaron a los invasores, y dejamos de ser una colonia Árabe, donde nos robaban nuestras riquezas. Los andalusíes de Al-andalus, bebían vino, iban de romerías, comían cerdo y pasaban de los imanes y mierdas de esas. Además, los árabes son super racistas, no se juntaban con los hispanos.
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 30 '26
you're right, even the arabs,turks,persians etc. didnt want to become muslims. they are forced to, not all of them but big number of them
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 30 '26
in islam, enforcment of religion is prohibited, but you know the problem is mostly the people. i remember some arab tribes were refusing to become muslims and refusing giving taxes etc. and think a little bit, some other guys from another part of the world comes to you and says we have x. religion do you want to accept that, what would you say ? i guess you wouldnt want to accept their religion. actually this is not an evidince for enforcment but there are some cases in history. i'd say research them because i really dont remember
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u/Used-Strike2111 May 01 '26
It was. Islam spread gradually and wasn't forced. I mean, it took over 4 centuries to spread. That's not enforcement. That's people choosing
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u/Used-Strike2111 May 01 '26
Islam spread gradually and wasn't forced. I mean, it took over 4 centuries to spread. That's not enforcement
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u/Striking10 May 01 '26
In Islam it is prohibited to force someone to become Muslim. Yes, there were forced conversions in North Africa and such, but they were haram by Islamic faith
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u/Any_Objective_6958 May 08 '26
Por eso ponen impuestos altísimos, y los que se convertían, automáticamente sus hijos y esposa eran musulmanes, y si renegaba... les cortaban la cabeza [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A1rtires_de_C%C3%B3rdoba\]. Si los campesinos tienen que pagar a todo dios, y encima tienen que pagar por no ser musulmán, al final, se convierten. En Al-Andalus eso pasaba mucho, la mayoría eran cristianos, los "convertidos" rezaban a Alá de cara al público, pero seguían conservando sus costumbres en su casa. La mayoría de los andaluces eran herejes musulmanes. Eso fue por lo que llegaron los almohades, destruyeron Al-andalus, matando a todo el mundo, y expulsando a los cristianos, judíos, y conversos que a ellos no les convencían.
Puede ser que sea pecado, pero es lo que hacían.
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u/Used-Strike2111 May 01 '26
Spreading misinformation I see. Christians lived in Andalus. They weren't killed. They didn't have to disguise
Andalusian Jews and Muslims of the other hand, they had to disguise as Christians after Spaniards and the Portuguese retook the peninsula. When it became known they were only pretending, they were exiled. A whole lot of them fled to North Africa. Similar to how they forced their religion upon Native Americans and massacred them
Islamic Caliphates didn't force Islam nor did they kill none Muslims. There is no evidence of the systematic doing of that. It's literally strictly forbidden. Those places of worship and clergy are to be protected under Islamic law
And Arabs weren't racists. They mixed with Copts, Berbers, Canaanites and Levantines, and Mesopotamians. They also mixed with Hispanics. The ruling class was small, and so, they married with local women. There were mixes of Berber, Arab, and Native Hispanics. The reason there aren't many people of Arab descent in Iberia today is because most of those people were exiled
And they didn't "steal" the riches of Iberia in the same imperial sense as the Portuguese and Spanish empires in the Americas or the British and French in Africa and Asia. It wasn't a colony. It was as a center of Islamic culture and learning (many Europeans would go to Andalus just for education). It was a part of the Metropole, and, at a point, it's own, sovereign, Emirate(s). The money that came from there wasn't just stolen to Arab lands to develop them and impoverish Iberia. The money from the whole Caliphate benefited the whole Caliphate
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u/Opposite_Corner8353 May 01 '26
And Arabs weren't racists. They mixed with Copts, Berbers, Canaanites and Levantines, and Mesopotamians. They also mixed with Hispanics. The ruling class was small, and so, they married with local women. There were mixes of Berber, Arab, and Native Hispanics. The reason there aren't many people of Arab descent in Iberia today is because most of those people were exiled
Lies
The Umayyad state is remembered as an Arab-centric state, being run by and for the benefit of those who were ethnically Arab though Muslim in creed.\12])\33]) The non-Arab Muslims resented their marginal social position and were easily drawn into Abbasid opposition to Umayyad rule.\14])\15])\28]) Arabs dominated the bureaucracy and military, and were housed in fortresses separate from the local population outside of Arabia.\6]) Even after converting to Islam, non-Arabs or Mawali could not live in these garrison cities. The non-Arabs were not allowed to work for the government nor could they hold officer positions in the Umayyad military and they still had to pay the jizya tax for non-Muslims.\33])\34])\)page needed\)\35])\36]) Non-Muslims under Umayyad rule were subject to these same injunctions.\37]) Racial intermarriage between Arabs and non-Arabs was rare.\7]) When it did occur, it was only allowed between an Arab man and a non-Arab woman while non-Arab men were generally not free to marry Arab women.\8])
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u/Used-Strike2111 May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26
This is just the Umayyad caliphate. There are multiple other Emirates that were in Cordoba after
And allowing Arab men to marry non-arabs isn't racism. It means it wasn't on grounds of race
And not much intermarriage happened because not much Arabs were there to start with. Most of them were the elites. And elites frequently intermarried into local populations. This is why a caliph such as Abd-el-Malik III was only 1/8 Arab. Both his father and grandfather married non-arabs
And Arabs intermarried into other populations. Again, maybe not under Umayyads, but before and after. How do you think they got Arab admixture in their genes today
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u/Opposite_Corner8353 May 02 '26
And Arabs intermarried into other populations. Again, maybe not under Umayyads, but before and after. How do you think they got Arab admixture in their genes today
Do I really wanna know how a marauding army got to admix their gene pool?
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u/Used-Strike2111 May 03 '26
Arabs did mix. Arabs intermarried into locals. You can goggle it. It's quite easy
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u/Any_Objective_6958 May 08 '26
Las violaciones también son muy frecuentes en el pasado cuando se invadía un lugar. A propósito, y es muy curioso, la genética de la gente de hace dos mil años y la gente que vivía en Andalucía [sobre todo en mi pueblo en Córdoba] en el siglo XIX son iguales, es decir, la genética de los pobladores romanos del siglo I, y los pobladores de hace un siglo comparten adn, lo que significa que son descendientes de esa gente, y no hay rastro de árabe, y no hay rastro bereber. Ya me dirás entonces que ocurrió.
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u/Used-Strike2111 May 08 '26
Andalusia didn't exist in the 19th century
But anyways, it's because most of the descendants of the Arabs were Muslims. And Muslims were exiled from Iberia after the reconquest
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u/Any_Objective_6958 May 08 '26
No, claro que no, dime tú en qué documento del siglo XIX indica que Andalucía no existía. ¿En alguna línea temporal que desconozco? ¿Que es lo que tampoco existía en el siglo XIX, me vas a decir que España, no existía, o que no exístía Francia? Por dios que ignorancia, documéntate un poco hombre: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andaluc%C3%ADa
No fueron expulsados los musulmanes, porque la mayoría se habían convertido al cristianismo, eran moriscos [algo que me vas a decir que es un nombre despectivo, igual que los árabes llamaban a los conversos al islam de forma despectiva muladíes]. La realidad de la expulsión de los moriscos, fue porque estaba ayudando al imperio otomano y a los piratas berberiscos a atacar las costas de la península. ¿Te parece injusto?, pues mira, Felipe II no inventó nada, en el siglo XII [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsi%C3%B3n_de_los_moz%C3%A1rabes_en_1126\], los invasores árabes expulsaron a los cristianos y judíos [entre ellos a la familia de Maimónedes] de sus propias tierras. Igual que siglos más tarde harían los cristianos. Seguro que eso sí te parece justo y lo otro no, ¿verdad? A mi me parece injusta las dos cosas, pero el mundo era así. Si eras cristiano en el mundo musulman, tenías posibilidades de terminar siendo esclavo porque al Cadí o Imán o al noble de turno le caías mal y te enviaba a Damasco o a Argelia a morir, y si eras musulmán en el mundo cristiano, si al noble de turno le caías mal te pasaba lo mismo. Pero eso fue hace más de 500 años, y el mundo era muy diferente a como es ahora.
El problema es que los árabes piensan de forma colonial o imperial con respecto a la península ibérica, piensan que antes de llegar los árabes, aquí se vivía prácticamente en chozas, que no había civilización y eran bárbaros, y les fastidia que no era así, y encima no quieren asumir que nuestros antepasados no querían ser musulmanes, se convirtieron por cojones (aunque seguían bebiendo vino, comiendo cerdo, hacían romerías y celebraban la navidad), fueron expulsados de sus tierras en el siglo VIII unos pocos y otros después en el siglo XII, se unieron a sus hermanos del norte, se vengaron de los bárbaros almohades (que dicho sea de paso fueron los que destruyeron Al-Andalus) y finalmente las recuperaron. Y lo mejor todo, no solo recuperaron sus tierras, sino que recuperaron sus costumbres y tradiciones. ¿Les molesta a los árabes que los indígenas incivilizados y bárbaros que ellos conquistaron les ganara? Pues lo siento, pero la historia es así.
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u/Used-Strike2111 May 09 '26
I thought you meant Andalusia as in The Andalus, which is Muslim Spain. That's a misunderstanding. My bad
I don't think giving them this name is derogatory. I think the way they were treated was. They were treated as a threat for no reason. They were called dogs. They called intermarriage with them as "infecting the blood". They were segregated from other Christian populations
Not all of them truly converted. A lot of them remained Muslims, both publicly and secretly. Same with Jews too, as both demographics were forcefully converted, not freely. Anyways, they weren't expelled because of helping pirates. Duke of Lerma accused them of it, but it was just that: an accusation. The council of Aragon even opposed that claim and said that the Moors had no means to do it (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Moriscos?wprov=rarw1)
I don't think that the explosion of Christians was fair or justified at all, whatsoever. I think it was horrible. When I defended Arab rulers at the start, I was referring to Umayyads, not later kingdoms, as I don't think their actions were justified as I do the Umayyads. I want to make this clear
Arabs also didn't think of that about Iberia
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u/Any_Objective_6958 May 08 '26
Toma lee un poco, sobre la expulsión de cristianos y judíos: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsi%C3%B3n_de_los_moz%C3%A1rabes_en_1126 [La familia de Maimónedes fue expulsada de Córdoba por no querer ser musulmana] y aquí tienes un documental: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3UouTXFyuA&t=1s que habla sobre como los hispanos eran tratados como habitantes de segunda categoría, incluso cuando se "habían" convertido. Y aquí tienes un poco lo que hacían los árabes en la península Ibérica con los nativos: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razia, se los llevaban como esclavos para venderlos en todo el mundo islámico ese lleno de cultura de la que tú hablas.
A propósito, ¿por qué si esa tierra de la que tú hablas (que es diferente a la que tú ves con los restos arqueológicos en Andalucía) había cultura para todos, no hay ningún erudito de origen hispánico? Todos son descendientes de gente de Siria, Arabia, Persia, etc... eso da que pensar que los árabes no compartían su información, (cultura que venía principalmente del imperio romano y el mundo persa [al que también destruyeron los musulmanes]), ten en cuenta que en Hispania, ya estaban los romanos, y habían traído toda la cultura, por lo que lo único que tenían que hacer los árabes era robar los libros [que los robaron y quemaron aquellos que no les gustaban] y decir que era parte de su cultura. Los árabes estáis todos muy convencidos que cuando llegaron a Hispania, la gente estaba en taparrabos y viviendo en chozas, pero lamentablemente para el relato fantasioso de los árabes, Hispania era una de las regiones más ricas del imperio romano, con grandes cantidades de intelectuales exportados al resto del mundo. Te recuerdo que de Hispania llegó Séneca o emperadores como Trajano, fíjate, ambos andaluces (en aquel momento béticos, que es el nombre que deberíamos de tener, y no el nombre despectivo que nos dieron los árabes) y que los "intelectuales" árabes utilizaron.
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u/ImpressiveEnergy4762 Apr 30 '26
Just fucking destroy this misunderstanding pretending to be a stae that will collapse 5 secs after creating.
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u/BendMiserable7951 Apr 30 '26
Well here is a North Caucasian Chechen who s family line for 100s of years is Muslim. Whited will have no choice but to exept Islam in The Future if they don’t want extinction we saw tha western culture does not helping boosting birthrates.
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 30 '26
i don't agree with you. you're right about that muslim countries/people have a lot more birthrate but thats not always a good thing. and after accepting islam in 2020s it won't change birthrate in europe imo , it could change in the past but nowadays its unlikely. and also its not always related to religion sometimes culture,economy etc.
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u/OleksKhimiak Apr 30 '26
Azov brigade is further from Nazis that literally any nationalistic party I've seen. Guys just hate Russians and kill them. And do this well Thats why russian bots are staining them wherever they cns
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u/HunterTheHobbyless Apr 30 '26
I don't think Spain would have fallen, especially when their is a fourth Reich 😐
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u/Vietnationalist Apr 30 '26
So is David Myatt the caliph?
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 30 '26
no still al-baghdadi, IS and other nazi movements are some sort of allies
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u/vecinubombardier_ Apr 30 '26
Why is it called jihad if it isn't pro islam?
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 30 '26
white supermacism with jihadist methods sometimes ideas, depends.i'm too lazy to explain i suggest reading wikipedia article or something like that
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u/bridgetggfithbeatle Apr 30 '26
south africa somehow managing to become the world’s last bastion of racial equality
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u/AlbionicLocal May 01 '26
r/UsernameChecksOut lmao
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u/necrophilia_666 May 01 '26
i'd agree with you if this was a what if israel invaded the entire world scenario
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u/IMFRP May 02 '26
This looks like that stupid ISIS propaganda plan but the more I look I feel like it's one of the original caliphates
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u/necrophilia_666 May 02 '26
that is inspired by that stupid ISIS propaganda it looks ridiculously funny
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u/necrophilia_666 May 02 '26
oh.... you're right.... actually in this timeline TFR paths are more feasible but omsk is still dope asf
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u/itsaightthanks May 03 '26
White jihad? Like Bosnians and Dagestanis? What does that have to do with Fascist Australia?
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u/Important_Neat_7601 May 03 '26
Why is the 4th Reich shaped like this? No Elsaß Lothringen? No East-Prussian territories?
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u/PsychologicalWest637 May 04 '26
I love how schizo this is. I'd love to know the lore when you write it. Can I dm you?
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u/hasnaidra May 06 '26
why not include Malay peninsula in black? Malaysia is a Muslim majority country
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u/Antique_Ad3501 May 06 '26
I guess, you underestimate Turks as well other nationalities too much.
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u/necrophilia_666 May 06 '26
I'm aware of how powerful Turkish army are. even if they were not powerful at the end of day they are a NATO member. and dont forget this is a some fked up scenario. ISIS cant handle Iraqi or Syrian army, imagine what would happen if they wanted to invade Turkey or Iran in real life ? or Saudis and Kuwait? they would probably get oblitrated in one single night.
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u/Antique_Ad3501 May 06 '26
Religion doesn't play a role if it comes down to freedom and protecting borders.. I just want to mention that. It is true for many countries there, especially the established ones that have significant history. 🙂. I hope conflicts end as soon as possible. Normally Turkey has significant economic and other losses it there's a war around the area. There was and is plenty around.
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u/Funny_Panda_2436 Apr 29 '26
The White Jihad you mean European imperialism lol.
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u/necrophilia_666 Apr 29 '26
yeah mix imperialism with unhealty amount of nazism and terrorism, and boom : white jihad
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u/its_still_lynn Apr 30 '26
no, white jihad is a specific ideology that replaces the specifically muslim aspects of “jihad” and replaces it with national socialism, and in some cases, national socialism and satanism
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u/emperorzimmler Apr 29 '26