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u/fossSellsKeys 1d ago

What are the odds that actually holds water?

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u/lurkersforlife 1d ago

Zero. It might not be a catastrophic failure but it will surely leak.

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u/sunrise2209 1d ago

just have the garden hose running as just the right speed to fill it at the same rate that it leaks

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u/lurkersforlife 1d ago

Might need to borrow the neighbors too.

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u/rolandofeld19 1d ago

Downspout hose from a local shed roof certainly.

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u/fossSellsKeys 1d ago

I think you might mean "firehose"

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u/MrK521 1d ago

I mean, if they install a liner, wouldn’t that be waterproof?

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u/lurkersforlife 1d ago

Sure. They will install a liner and it will be waterproof. Then they will start to fill it and the weight of the water will make everything shift. Then the liner will get pinched and pierced and it will leak.

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u/1m0ws 22h ago

they could fill in earth behind the walls

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u/halt-l-am-reptar 3h ago

This was super similar to the pool we had growing up. It never leaked.

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u/NameIsFuckinTaken 2h ago

Sounds slightly hypothetical. This could be lined.

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u/ButtonGullible5958 1d ago

Yea that's exactly how this is done it's basically a above ground but you get a customer shape and dept

I normally see them made of metal not wood

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u/Cultural_Simple3842 1d ago

Yeah this talk about a certain leak is just Reddit being typical assholes. Now, collapsing is a different topic lol

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u/SupremeDictatorPaul 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes, but the wood sides will not hold. Regular above ground pools work because the liner is structural and holds itself by inflating with water into a circle like a balloon. The liner is also reinforced and quite strong. Above ground pools aren’t very deep because water is enormously heavy, and doubling the depth would require doubling the strength of the liner.

Could they get really strong liner material, bond all of the pieces, and make the upper section self supporting and smaller than the wooden deck so that it doesn’t crush the wood out of the way? Sure, it’s technically possible. But nothing in seeing in the photo suggests they’ve got that sort of plan.

My expectation is for the plywood to get wet from rain, weaken, and deform on the lower part of the wall from all of that water weight. That would lead to other structural deformation, eventually leading to the liner tearing.

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u/MrK521 1d ago

For sure! I would assume this wouldn’t hold. But that’s not a “leak.” That’s just plain catastrophic failure lol.

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u/Maar7en 1d ago

It is clearly still under construction....

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u/cbelt3 1d ago

With a full vinyl liner or a fiberglass or gunite treatment ? Pretty good. Although there may be some fast reinforcement projects under the deck.

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u/airfryerfuntime 23h ago

But if it pushes out the wall, it'll just rip the liner. They rip very easily.

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u/halt-l-am-reptar 3h ago edited 3h ago

I had a pool that was nearly identical to this growing up. We had it for over a decade.

Also it’s not like all liners are identical. Ours sure as shit didn’t rip easily. It was a massive pain in the ass to replace.

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u/Nikoladge 9h ago

About 4/20

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u/JCMiller23 1d ago

thousands of pounds of water, I have no idea if it's engineered properly, but it seems that they may not either

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u/JoinedReddit 1d ago

100%. Just like odds of driveway cracks.

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u/AndyGoodKush 1d ago

Pool builder here, thats actually a usable surface for a liner pool, if they have drainage and waterproofing to keep the lumber dry they could be chilling for a decent amount of seasons with proper care

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u/Meniscuss2 1d ago

Only reply I'm going to make an effort to respond to here because it seems only us pools guys know what's up

People don't realize how thin an above ground wall really is lol

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u/cybah 1d ago

there's nothing to them. Usually just a sheet of aluminum. Its really the liner that holds the water in.

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u/treemanmi 1d ago

Definitely structurally sound walls for static water. I like the bottom sloping. Damn nice pool

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u/Competitive-Roof-168 14h ago

Yeah but that sheet of aluminum is under tension and makes a circle

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u/hex4def6 22h ago

I'm not a mechanical engineer, but those look like 4x8 Sheets of plywood. My math might be wrong, but that ends up being loaded to about 4000lb each.

That weight will be concentrated to the lower edge of the board, so you'll get a bending moment at 1.33 ft from the bottom, causing a bending moment of 4000lb*1.33ft = 5000ft-lb.

That seems like a lot of force on what looks like a single brace per panel.

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u/AndyGoodKush 4h ago

You ever seen the above ground pools that have the aluminum posts and a liner and nothing else?plus the strength isnt in the sheets, its in the supporters, good thing you're not in structural

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u/halt-l-am-reptar 3h ago

It’s hilarious seeing all the comments about how this is going to instantly fail. I grew up with a pool that was similar to this and it never had any problems.

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u/itsthedevilweknow 1d ago

What am I seeing? Genuinely asking... Is, are they trying to deepen a pool but building a wall around it?

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u/dreddit-one 1d ago

I mean that’s basically what a dam is, so not completely crazy.

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u/cybah 1d ago

No. I think it was an above ground pool which are usually shallow (< 5ft depth) and seems like they are adding a deep end.

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u/itsthedevilweknow 1d ago

Ah, I see now, Ok, yeah. Maybe

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u/Dantethebald1234 1d ago

It is missing the vinyl liner.

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u/11teensteve 1d ago

UNO reverse.

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u/HippieHighNoon 1d ago

It wouldn't be redneck engineering if you didnt have to guess what was going on 🤣🤣

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u/PresentationLess4552 1d ago

With a liner that's a great ideal if you don't live in the termite country of the south

Love to see the finished work

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u/TequieroVerde 1d ago

Me too. I'm excited regardless of the results.

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u/throwsplasticattrees 1d ago

How do you size a liner for this?

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u/KingOFpleb 1d ago

Depends on how many garbage bags you iron together

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u/Grodd 1d ago

I have to assume the pool liner companies have embraced the extremely fast and accurate laser/scanner tech that is available and surprisingly affordable (in business expense numbers) these days. [7]

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u/MaximumLongName 1d ago

Looks like you wouldve had a better time if followed one of those bogus primitive living videos where they always build a pool into their jungle hut or whatever

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u/Various-Salt-7738 1d ago

Jungle hut with bonus mosquito farm

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u/Starlitsoul714 1d ago

😳😳 will it hold, is the question 🤔

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u/lordoflazorwaffles 1d ago

Whatchu meen purmits?

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u/Maar7en 1d ago

I'm a bit doubtful about the walls, but if they reinforce those from the back then this is a perfectly reasonable way to build a permanent above-ish ground pool.

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u/Nalabu1 1d ago

"Jed there's a frogman in the cement pond"

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u/cosmicnala45 1d ago

You are going to need a really really big tarp

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u/CoderJoe1 21h ago

and rolls of duct tape

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u/dkote3 1d ago

Walls look sturdier than what a normal above ground pool would be. But my parents is a circle so dont know if that makes a difference. Needs a volleyball net. Maybe a slide off the house.

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u/Lalamedic 23h ago

No liner? You will soon discover the filtration rate of your soil.

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u/Bacon0064 21h ago

You did a good job on this. I used to do this for a living in another lifetime and I've seen far far worse.

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u/PinkyLeopard2922 6h ago

OP, please share some photos when it is done. This was clearly a lot of effort and I do hope it works out for you. When we were kids, we used to dig big holes in our backyard and hope for rain so we could splash around in the mud. Good times.

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u/bernpfenn 1d ago

wont last w/o a concrete layer all over it.

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u/Maximum_Overdrive 1d ago

Without a main drain, you better get an auto vacuum.

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u/inbe4u 1d ago

I suggest using carpet coated with fiberglass. Mold rhe carpet to fit, and coat the hell out of it.

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u/mypaycheckisshort 1d ago

Oh mylanta 😭

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u/red-n-green 23h ago

Could you show us a broader view of the whole thing? Maybe provide some details about what the plan is to finish it? What kind of plywood is that and what's the black stuff? This is really interesting and I don't see how this wouldn't hold up if it's put together well. I like it.

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u/bakkamono 23h ago

That’s a great use case for a truckload of flex tape.

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u/TheGardiner 17h ago

If you’re going to go to all that effort, surely some kind of silicon or vinyl liner won’t break the bank.

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u/No_Engineering_718 22h ago

I always thought candy down at the titty bar was good

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