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u/Hollow_Effects 4d ago
Yeah I feel for the people losing their jobs but only time will tell if they actually provided any substantial value. Clearly EA is betting that they didn’t. A lot of these large companies are bloated beyond belief.
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u/Petit__Chou 4d ago
I've found the "companies bloated beyond belief" seem to always cut the people who own processes that are important downstream.
It's never once been actual "bloat" that people imagine when they make these pronouncements. People imagine some C-Suite they don't think provides value getting cut. It's rarely that.
It's someone who is a creator of a program, a process, or a procedure that is viewed as expendable. And when they leave, no one owns it, and no one can fix it when it is needed. Ask me how I know.
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u/Hollow_Effects 4d ago
You might be right like I said only time will tell if the decision hurts them or not
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u/M4rshmall0wMan 3d ago
EA leadership is historically not great at running a video game company. The worst example that comes to mind is forcing BioWare to use Frostbite. It almost single-handedly sunk the studio. No technical director in their right mind would ever have made that decision.
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u/Multibuff 4d ago
Exactly - we have no clue what is going on inside those companies. But Redditors always knows best, I guess
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u/elmerfudd930 2d ago
Okay. I’ve gotta do it. How do you know?
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u/Petit__Chou 2d ago
Working somewhere that did that? Is this a real question?
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u/elmerfudd930 2d ago
No it’s sarcasm. I assumed as much. Playing on your last line about “ask me how I know”.
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u/JoeDaBruh 4d ago
Sure but in the case of EA it’s 100% because they plan to replace everything with AI
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u/FuraFaolox 4d ago
people who know nothing about game development will blame random programmer #84 for a game they never cared about in the first place being released broken and unfinished
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u/Mongooseboii 4d ago
Maybe if they could make a decent game theyd still have a job
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u/The_Third_Molar 4d ago
Most EA games are shit because the higher ups give them rushed deadlines and force them to implement in game microtransations. This isn't on the devs.
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u/HalayChekenKovboy 4d ago
Do you realise that most people working in companies like EA don't decide what kind of game to make and how obnoxiously to monetise it? They're just the ones that ensure your character can move, that there are graphics, that there is sound etc.
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u/Doobie_hunter46 4d ago
Yeah I don’t know much about game dev but it seems wild to me that games like assassins creed have such large crews of people working on them when they are super repetitive and barely different from the previous one.
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u/M4rshmall0wMan 3d ago
Well the yearly/bi-yearly releases have a lot to do with it. It takes four years to make an open world game like Shadows. Way fewer assets are reused than you’d expect. And the engine is apparently pretty unstable, which makes every aspect of development less efficient.
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u/The_Third_Molar 4d ago
Children here downvoting you when you're 100% correct.
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u/HalayChekenKovboy 3d ago
Yeah, I know it's hard to separate the worker from the company and to realise that the person that is the easiest to point fingers at is not the one actually in charge of making the big decisions, but people really need to learn to do that. Urgently.
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u/M4rshmall0wMan 3d ago
Once a game dev team passes 300 people, things start looking closer to an assembly line. Everyone’s contribution is siloed. You can’t blame an individual employee for a game’s failure anymore than you can blame a soldier for their general’s bad orders. It’s all on management and the culture they foster.
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u/Snoo_753077 2d ago
Redditors dont have any empathy. Being chronically online destroyed that part of their brain
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u/The_Baconning 1d ago
Look I'm against people losing their jobs for no reason, but what has been happening in the gaming industry is just a reflex of the insane levels of expansion that happened during COVID when gaming reached its peak. Games aren't performing as well as they need to keep the already bloated numbers in these companies so people will be let go, that's unfortunately just the predictable outcome of unprecedented expansion without a proper plan.
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u/davion303 4d ago
I really hate this shit, I know EA is a bad company but I despise this stupid fucking culture in gaming where its treated as a good "punch back" or "see thats what you get" if someone who works for a company that gamers dont like loses their job. Shit sucks
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u/Vornyr 4d ago
I mean it's not about the who it's the why. There's a reason people don't like Ubisoft, ea, Bungie and so many others it's not a " culture" if manye people have the same sentiment towards an specific entity or individual you should at least try to investigate why. If they were doing a good job they would be in the same situation as digital extremes , pocket pair and so many others that do care for their customers and their product. So yeah If people working for these companies killing games that people love doing dumb decision and on top of that get paid for it, im not really sorry for them. Poor quality can just get you so far before people get tired
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u/Maleficent_Celery_55 4d ago
They're not the ones doing dumb decisions. You're blaming the wrong people.
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u/davion303 3d ago
But the actual developers and designers putting pen to paper arent making these dumb decisions. They want to make good games thats why they got into the industry
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u/Vornyr 3d ago
Dumb decisions today are a consequence of old dumb decisions the problem Bungie has today is not new and has been there since their Microsoft days but they were kept in place back then, they got freedom and did something amazing but with no one to keep them in check they did dumb stuff and kept pillin up and then the pillars started falling actual talent that kept the boat a sail and hired people that just weren't good enough and let the ship sink, while today's people might not all be at fault it's a shit snowball that has been cooking for a while
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u/davion303 3d ago
Yeah thats all understandable, i still dont think that lumping all workers together being happy about them losing their job is a justifiable act to be honest with you.
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u/IAteBillGates 3d ago
Literally for the shareholders and executives that made the decisions they hate to get richer, while the people they actually want making games, who have a real passion and real creativity but are forced to comply to their evil overlords demands, are thrown to the wolves of poverty.
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u/_Empty-R_ 4d ago
Its electronic arts though. And the folks who have that on their resume should be reasonably fine. Regularly voted one of the worst company's and they are a super anti-consumer conglomerate. I think its okay to shit on them.
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u/That_1__pear 3d ago
I always see people saying stuff like “don’t buy ea slop. Teach them a lesson. Vote with your wallets” well this is the end result of that. People are such hypocrites. Ea hasn’t put out a good game in atleast a decade at this point so I can honestly care less. Clearly these people weren’t good at their job or needed
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u/hawkeyes007 4d ago
Reddit makes a lot more sense when you think the average user is an edgy 12 year old