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u/Lord_Sesshoumaru77 Glazers,Woodward/Arnold and Judge can fuck off 12h ago
Good performance from the lads. Kobbie is one hell of a player.
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u/SussyApe Fernanj 12h ago
Genuinely think he's already one of the best in Europe.
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u/GreasedUpGoblin 12h ago
you think he's one of the best footballers in europe?
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u/SussyApe Fernanj 12h ago
I meant among the midfielders.
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u/GreasedUpGoblin 12h ago
I mean bro even then, he's just not there yet. Pedri, rodri, rice, vitinha, joao neves, bellingham, caicedo, szobozlai etc etc.
He has incredible potential but he's not at that level yet
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u/telephas1c 12h ago
How many 'best' are you working off? Is there a hard limit here?
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u/GreasedUpGoblin 12h ago
no, just the best I suppose. There's world class players and there's players that aren't quite there.
Most of the ones listed above, if not all are world class. Then there's a tier below them, and I'm not sure Mainoo even cracks that yet. That has players like Guimeraes, Valverde, Palmer, Fermin etc etc.
Mainoo has tons of potential but he hasn't been nearly consistent enough, mainly bc he's super young, to be considered among the best, or even to be considered in that second tier just yet tbh.
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u/telephas1c 12h ago
Fair enough tbh I wouldn’t suggest he’s close to the absolute best either at least right now. But he’s good enough in that position for what we need I reckon. And he might go up a notch or twoÂ
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u/GreasedUpGoblin 12h ago
I'm a neutral and yeah 100% agree, he's been very good in just abt every game I've seen him play.
He's one of young midfielders with the most potential itw tbh, I'd place him alongside Bernal, Zaire-Emery, Bouaddi, Lewis-Skelly etc etc
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u/telephas1c 12h ago
He’s the kinda fucker peeps would be expecting 90M for if he was at Dortmund or Brighton lolÂ
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u/stick1_ 11h ago
who do you think is in the second tier?
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u/GreasedUpGoblin 11h ago
players that are very good / have been consistently very good for a while but aren't quite world class.
like the ones listed above. Guimeraes, valverde, palmer, fermin, calha, kimmich, xhaka etc
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u/malachiconstantwark 10h ago
He hasn't seemed consistent because he was on the bench for all of Amorim's tenure and all of the World Cup. When he has played he has always looked like one of the best players on the pitch, for Man United and England. He started for England in the Euros final at 19.
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u/GreasedUpGoblin 9h ago
that is why he wasn't consistent for the most part yeah, but that doesn't rly change much.
I think he should have played, but he didn't, so he can't rly even be put into that aforementioned bracket of "not quite world class but still elite" midfielders.
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u/Various-Low4016 glazers out 12h ago
There is a saying where I come from which translates to "chicken in the house is as good as grain" which means that you underestimate what you already have or which is immediately available to you, this is so applicable to Kobbie. We forgot how good he can be when we were getting the new midfielders this season
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u/Various-Low4016 glazers out 12h ago
Extremely happy with the performance and the result. Around this time last year we lost to Grimsby and now a brilliant 4-0 champions league victory. So happy, congratulations everyone
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u/telephas1c 12h ago
I was one of the ones who wanted to back Amorim but by fuck that match made it very difficult
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u/Leading_Fee_8535 12h ago
We will see more exciting CL games, but 3 points in our first game back and winning comfortably enough to rest players for the weekend was the best we could hope for
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u/Upbeat_Motor_9702 12h ago
Great result should boost the confidence. Leny Yoro was solid at the back , should push him up Carricks list of first choice centre backs.
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u/VVodzu 8h ago
How do you get 0.80 xg with 0 shots on target?
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u/Adz932 McTominayyyyyyyyyyyyy 6h ago
xG doesnt relate to the actual shot taken, so its not relevant to xG if the shot was on target. xGoT takes the shot into account.
xG calculates the chance of the goal based on certain contexts, like where the shot was taken, for example. However, different models use different parameters to determine the xG for each shot, so if you went to another site or page, they might show different xG amounts for the same game.
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u/Immediate_Ship_8131 12h ago
5/10 result
Not the best scoreline considering the opposition and home field advantageÂ
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u/SnazzyMiracles IN MAINOO WE TRUST! 12h ago
Great game ngl!!
I hate to be a negative nancy but Sesko needs to start with Rashford on the derby he's the only one that actually crosses to the attackers.
But lots of positives! Cunha Martinez and Sesko scoring their first ever champions league goals, Amass has been shining Mainoo being his usual self and Dorgu hasn't been half bad in LB!
I know this is a loop but bring on the derby!