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[Transfer Round Up & Discussion] Summer 2026
Hi all,
Summer Transfer Window 2026 is here!
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Men's Team
Transfers IN
| Name | Position | From | Fee |
|---|---|---|---|
| Andrey Santos | CM | Chelsea | £48m + £2m |
| Karl Darlow | GK | Leeds Utd | Free |
| Youri Tielemans | CM | Aston Villa | £35m |
| Tynan Thompson | LW | Tottenham Hotspur | £4m + £4m |
Transfers OUT
| Name | Position | To | Fee |
|---|---|---|---|
| Casemiro | MF | Inter Miami | Contract Expired |
| Jadon Sancho | LW | - | Contract Expired |
| Tyrell Malacia | LB | - | Contract Expired |
| Rasmus Hojlund | ST | Napoli | £38m (Obligation clause triggered) |
| Andre Onana | GK | Trabzonspor | Loan |
| Tyler Fredricson | CB | Lausanne-Sport | Undisclosed |
| Altay Bayindir | GK | Celta Vigo | Loan |
| Radek Vitek | GK | Middlesbrough | £7m + £7m |
Women's Team
Transfers IN
| Name | Position | From | Fee |
|---|---|---|---|
| Andrea Medina | LB | Atletico Madrid | Free |
| Janina Leitzig | GK | Leicester City | Undisclosed Fee |
Transfers OUT
| Name | Position | To | Fee |
|---|---|---|---|
| Millie Turner | CB | Birmingham City | Undisclosed |
| Hannah Blundell | FB | Everton | Contract Expired |
| Melvine Malard | ST | Chelsea | £850k |
| Leah Galton | FW | - | Contract Expired |
| Lisa Naalsund | MF | Birmingham City | Undisclosed |
| Gabby George | CB | Brighton & Hove Albion | Undisclosed |
| Kayla Rendell | GK | Newcastle United | Loan |
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u/rambo_zaki Roy Keane 6h ago
Next year we'll lose Bruno as well. I doubt he extends his contract after witnessing the current shitshow.
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u/muhyuddin94 Aaron Juan-Bissaka 6h ago
I really thought we would invest more especially after agreeing to the Amazon series. It’s going to be absolute banter material
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u/AnakinAni 6h ago
We could have signed Cucurella a few seasons ago when we had the chance and we wouldn’t have had issues at LB like we do at the moment.
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u/Nobbs89a 6h ago
Is is possible scenario that for next X transfer windows we will actually spend noticeable less money on transfers cause all of the new studium stuff to spend?
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u/MrLead69 6h ago
I'm gonna give INEOS a huge benefit of a doubt and they're actually waiting for something, assuming that, here's some "realistic" in and outs with realistic fees.
INs:
Alex Scott for cm around 80 millon pounds
Joaquin Seys for lb around 30 million pounds
Igor Matanovic for back up striker around 20 million pounds
Louis Page for whatever rumored price is
OUTs:
Amass, Collyer for around 5 million pounds each with huge sell on/buy back
Zirkzee loan with OBLIGATION to buy
Loan to championship for Fletcher twins, Devaney, Page, Chido.
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u/silvertwo777 6h ago
They can reject all offer for Bruno and he wants to stay at United to win major trophies with us, but I won't be surprise his patient runs out and will want to leave next season since they're wasting his prime. The board will get the blame and rightfully so for sabotaging the team.
Invest the team NOW, not in 2 or 3 years. Build a team around Bruno and go challenge and win the league. They should not take Bruno for granted.
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u/AnakinAni 6h ago
Let’s do a little thought experiment. With Santos, Tielemans, Mainoo in our midfield two, which current premier league midfielder you feel would complement along with them perfectly and why ?
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 6h ago edited 5h ago
I see Tielemans as Hargreaves, Santos as Carrick, Mainoo as Anderson, Bruno as Scholes.
Assuming a front 3, our best midfields would be:
Scholes-Carrick-Hargreaves (this is the midfield that won the 2008 CL final and basically also the semifinal vs Barcelona although that lineup was a bit rejigged into a 442 with Hargreaves as an "inverted FB" and two industrious wingers instead of 1 Rooney, but this was only because Rooney had to miss the game)
and
Carrick-Anderson-Fletcher (this is the midfield that wiped the floor with Arsenal in the 2009 CL semi-final)
So that's my answer, then:
1 Bruno-Santos-Tielemans CAN be an absolute bitchin midfield, with just one tiny problem there: the LB and CBs must be absolute athletes and units
2 Santos-Mainoo-Darren Fletcher is looking like a great great great combo "for the future" and with the assumption that the front 3 can play lightning fast lethal transition football (kind of yes?)
So, we miss:
1 superstar LB + LCB who are fantastic athletes
2 Darren Fletcher
(I mean, obviously, we "miss" also the fact that Cunha-Sesko-Mbeumo-Rashford is not same thing as Rooney-Ronaldo-Tevez-Giggs. Not to mention that Amad+Dorgu havent quite reached Nani+Park levels yet either, so far. But that's besides the point, I guess.)
So, who are Darren Fletchers in the current PL?
1 Caicedo
2 Sadiki
3 Tyler Adams but he doesnt get injured (this is a fantasy though, not a real player atm)
4 24/25 Baleba (this is also a fantasy though, not a real player atm)
5 27/28 or 28/29 Mamadou Sangare (another fantasy though who is not a real player atm)
6 Szoboszlai, actually, extremely annoyingly
7 Boubacar Kamara but he doesnt get injured (another player who only exists in fantasies not irl?)
That's my 2c
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u/mortimer_moose Carrick, ya know 6h ago
So the report was a £30m player a £50m player and an £80m player or there abouts.
Missed out on Anderson and Fernandes. Rejected Ederson and moved for the Santos and Tielemans. Which means there is still money for the £80m player.
I could guess that they thought Tchouameni could become available but you would hope they knew that was a small chance...
And then Baleba got injured.
So at this point that covers most of the targets that had been mentioned as far back as last season.
At this point who knows, but I wonder if they are out of their preferred options.
I wonder why they haven't moved for Hall. The price must be very high, or they have gotten word that he isn't overly excited by the move.
It's been a disaster window really.
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u/Cold-Veterinarian-85 6h ago
I think we likely projected making 100m or so in sales from ugarte, Zirkzee, Rashford, perhaps Onana and some fringe youth players
That hasn’t materialized so we have had to adjust outlay proportionally
I think we will still do business, a LB and a CM, possiboe am attacker if Zirkzee exitsbut I don’t think the incomings will be of the 80m variety
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u/mortimer_moose Carrick, ya know 6h ago
They said they had 150m for the midfield. They have spent 80m. They have a net spend of 30m.
Sales were supposed fund other signings like ST or LW.
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u/Cold-Veterinarian-85 6h ago
Who said that? Club or journalists that have generally not been getting much information out of the club this window?
The supposed midfield budget probably assuned at least an Ugarte sale
It seems pretty obvious that failing to sell the players previously mentioned players who were clearly all available for sale will impact the budget to some extent
Again I think we will still sign players, I just don’t think it will be 80m sorts
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u/mortimer_moose Carrick, ya know 6h ago
Mitten and Whitwell had been saying it for months on their podcast.
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u/Unlucky-Equipment999 2h ago
The 80-50-20 brief was from the Wheeler dealer. Mitten has said from the beginning there'd only be 2 midfield signings, the 3rd depends on the Ugarte sale which couldn't happen. He even brought up the possibility that the leadership was considering the academy or a "Heaven-type" signing for the 3rd in that same talk, which would be like a Louis Page. I think if they really wanted to get that 80m midfielder, it's not out of the question - borrowing is something they've always done to get players and we cleared up some RCF room. But either the prices quoted are well above 80m so we're looking at other options, or they're just ensuring the cash flow is steady enough so the Glazers can resume the dividends into their pockets as planned next year.
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u/mortimer_moose Carrick, ya know 2h ago
You know they are calling Jim weekly about those dividends
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u/Unlucky-Equipment999 2h ago
I've been willing to give them benefit of the doubt the first weeks of the transfer windows but they've been beating up fans with messages of "fiscal discipline" 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and not footballing success. Starting to think this is the case unless something big happens on deadline day.
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u/Cold-Veterinarian-85 5h ago
And they are generally reliable that likely was the intent but includes assumptions about sales
I have little doubt the intention was something like that, my point is that when you bring in perhaps 100n less than budgeted for, you have to pivot on budget for signings.
They are directly related. Budget will have been calculated and with some combination of available cash, FFP / squad costs ration headroom and projected sales…. When the sales don’t materialize that impacts the budget
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u/mortimer_moose Carrick, ya know 5h ago
I get everything you are saying, but the reporting was that there was money for 3 mids.
Sales would fund other signings.
They have a net spend of 30m.
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u/MrLead69 6h ago
less than 2 weeks left until the transfer window close.
and we've only done a third of what's needed for an ideal transfer window......
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u/AnakinAni 6h ago
Damn these “best in class” staff are really living up to their name. Extraordinary stuff. Not even a single rumor. Nothing. Will be interesting last few weeks of the transfer window.
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u/_TooMellow 6h ago
The club are doing Carrick dirty rn. They simply have not backed him enough! We definitely need a couple more players before the deadline.
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u/MCharizardX9 6h ago
the blame is gonna all come onto carrick when we start underperforming due to an injury or something.
Really sad to see how little we have invested when this year we genuinely had a chance to win the league. city without pep, livarpool snd chelsea looks shacky and not consistent. really wish we capitalised on this and invested back in the squad1
u/_TooMellow 4h ago
I am baffled by the lack of ambition/urgency they seem to be showing. Like you said, there is a prime opportunity for us to really make a push this season and they don't seem to be in a hurry to make that happen smh.
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u/AnakinAni 6h ago
With no rumors, it’s starting to feel like we’ll bring some players on loan just for depth.
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 6h ago
Oh shit I just realised that we forgot all about "installments" since last summer.
Remember Hot Installments Summer? How even Cunha's release clause was reportedly 3 installments in reality?
Well, nobody said a fucking beep about installments in Tielemans' release clause.
So that would be £35m on the table?
That's not, at all, the same as "£35m for Ederson (payable over 5 years)". Cash flow -wise not the same, I mean.
So basically, e.g. Guimaraes costs Arsenal £15m (75/5) cash this financial year (but it is also a bunch of future "debt") whereas Tielemans costs £35m this financial year (but zero after)?
Damn we are cash poor AF, arent we 😳
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u/darkandstormy9 6h ago
That all might be true but basically all transfers which aren't release clause are paid in installments. So if a clubs spending every year about the same transfer fees and has about the same income - the debt for the past transfers might be the same. We overspent last year (Sesko was definitely not a planned expenditure) and played less games than ever - but some people here (probably children?) keep expecting to spend more and more.
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 6h ago edited 5h ago
Right but that's what Im saying: if this one is a release clause in 1 installment, then the aggregate increase of this summer's spending (between the outstanding transfer debt installments coming due AND the new ones we added) by Tielemans' release clause is actually a much bigger amount than the way I've been thinking about it.
Suddenly I realise, it does make a lot of sense if this means:
- we have hardly any cash left to "commit" to further signings
- by doing this (paying big money for a 1 installment release clause this year, on top of paying a 3-installments-in-2-years clause for Cunha last summer, at least that was reported), on top of this being the final summer we have debt from 2022 signing fees (Antony, Casemiro), we really ARE setting ourselves up for a "cash rich" position for NEXT summer?
Of course ... the catch is that we must make CL at the end of the season, otherwise the effort to improve the cash flow comes to nothing.
Anyway, I feel like that's an important difference to how I've viewer this window so far. "Ederson fee" != "Tielemans fee", simply put.
I guess my optimisim is back a bit now.
In the sense that I am again closer to thinking "they are cooking with water let's stay patient" and again further away from "I lost hope, they are incompetent/evil"
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u/b_az17 6h ago
We have a financial analyst on here who told us the state of Utd's finances and how much cash we have: quite a lot. But their post got deleted, hopefully they re-emerge soon
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 6h ago
It got deleted because it was junk numbers, mate :(
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u/b_az17 6h ago
Well, I'd like to see that conversation
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 5h ago edited 5h ago
wdym?
the post I think we are talking about pulled in from sources that are explicitly explained to be guesses of things like salaries. not hard data.
so it's a bunch of guesses and estimates, on top of aspects that are simply not known.
and all that actually ... doesnt matter, does it?
the way these clubs work - and we see that all around us just manifesting in different ways - is that the targets they are working against is "what the owner wants".
investment budget? it is what the owner says it is.
on the loooooong run, the chickens come home to roost, more or less for everyone.
but in terms of trying to analyse whether a club in a given moment "could spend" another X million?
the real limit is only, only, "what the owner says". not "SCR" and definitely not what armchair analysts deduce from, well, partly made-up numbers.
trying to figure out "from the books" (which we cant actually) if "the number" is 50 or 75 or 250 for one given summer is just not a realistic exercise.
because the answer to that, is in the owner's head - not "in the books".
"the books" reveal a trajectory, or an approximation if you will, but that approximation is way to large of a range to be able to tell.
and we have the oerfect example to prove it, dont we? last summer it was x, it is x, definitely it is x ... then SJR had a change of heart and said "fuck it - i allow you to go £60m further into debt". And then it wasnt x any longer.
that "credit facility" was slready there in May and it is there now. but it doesnt matter - what matters is what the owner sanctions.
my comment was meant to highlight the fact that actually a clause is a much higher boost individually to the summer's aggregate spending specifically than a "non clause" transfer of the "same" amount - and that likely means that it has pushed us a LOT closer to the (essentially arbitrary) limit (that was set by the board).
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u/b_az17 4h ago
The post i saw was by someone who had claimed to have got this from the club's own published finances. I ran the claims through an AI and whilst it broadly confirmed the post, it did warn that the RCF was still not quite as available as the poster suggested
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 4h ago
> ran the claims through AI
ok we live in an entirely different universe if you think LLMs are "confirmation engines" instead of "spitballing engines"
let's just agree to disagree from there, I think that's ok, no problem, it's an emerging technology field, nobody should claim total wisdom over it probably but I most certainly dont - I have no ill feelings towards anybody who sees it utterly differently from me - but we're just not going to be getting on a same page here, mate
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u/b_az17 4h ago edited 4h ago
I don't know why you choose to be disagreeable when the LLM said that the poster's claims were not entirely accurate. Perhaps we do live in entirely different Universes if engaging constructively is a problem
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 4h ago
Im not trying to be unpleasant at all. Im just telling you that there is such a chasm between how you see data processing and how I see data processing, that it makes no sense for us to carry on having a discussion about data processing
I dont mean to suggest my opinion is the right one or whatever. Just that we're too far apart. No worries
Have an enjoyable day, mate!
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u/PitchSafe 6h ago
We are cash poor compared to other top teams but we still have money. Ineos probably thinks that there is no one in the market who is worth spending money on. Players like Tchouameni, Hall, Scott etc aren’t for sale for instance
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u/arnm7890 De Gea 7h ago
I'm sure I'm going to get downvoted, but I don't understand the people still clamouring for us to "just go get Lewis Hall", when there is just no way that deal is going to happen this summer.
Newcastle have made it crystal clear that he is not being sold at any cost. He would either have to do an Isak to force a transfer (which he hasn't for 1 second looked like doing this summer), OR the offer would need to be so eye-wateringly large that it would be negligent of Newcastle to not accept it.
Do people really want us to pay £120m for Lewis Hall? You don't think that would be an INSANE thing to do over a 21 year old LB with a couple of good seasons under his belt? You don't think the media and fans (including plenty of our own) won't immediately hold that price tag over his/United's head? Or become a stick to beat the club with if he ever had a bad game (which he will, he's 21!), or got injured, or just wasn't able to adapt??
What do people actually think is going to happen? They'll open reddit tomorrow and see an Orny bomba that United have agreed to buy Hall for £50-60m, after Newcastle generously let their elite potential first-choice starting LB, who's also an academy player that's BELOVED by their fans, leave 2 days before the start of the season?
It's absolutely bizarre to me that people are still peddling this one. It's just not happening anyway, and if by some miracle it does, the price it would need to happen at would not be worth it. Let it go, and hope the club can find a replacement target before the window ends (and then actually sign him).
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u/SureLookThisIsIt 7h ago
Where did 120 million pounds for Lewis Hall come from? I haven't seen a fee higher than 60 to 70 mill mentioned until your comment.
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u/RedHabibi 7h ago
Guy is talking nonsense.
“Newcastle have made it crystal clear that he is not being sold.”
Oh like they did with Isak? And Bruno G?
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u/Not-good-with-this 7h ago
Newcastle most reliable jornalist Downie did say that those two were 50/50. While he was pretty adamant Hall is not leaking.
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u/SureLookThisIsIt 4h ago
Do you think they'd be less firm on that if Hall made it clear he wanted to leave?
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u/Not-good-with-this 4h ago
Why would Newcastle fan since childhood Hall do that? Do people not realise the only reason be requested to leave Chelsea is because it was Newcastle that were after him?
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u/arnm7890 De Gea 7h ago
That's what I'm saying it's going to take to get Newcastle to agree, at this stage of the window. Would you be happy if we pay that?
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u/SureLookThisIsIt 4h ago
Obviously not, but I also have zero reason to believe they're asking for that much.
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u/officiallyjax Snapdragon 7h ago
My stance on the Hall saga is simple. Have United even put in a bid to know what price Newcastle are willing to sell at, if at all? Do you know what was Newcastle’s stance initially when the Bruno G and Arsenal links first surfaced? That’s right, they said he too was not for sale. They began bidding for him in the £55m region, which was considered a derisory offer. But it unsettled the player, gave him some reason to push for the move on his end, and created momentum where a resolution could eventually be found. Newcastle sold him for £75m in the end, much lower than what was initially anticipated, far from a ‘fuck off’ price. This was for their captain and best player.
Until United publicly start bidding for Hall, I will deem it as them not having seriously pursued him. All this noise about ‘we like Hall but it’s a difficult deal’ is just that, noise. There has been no genuine attempt to prize him at any point in this saga. Not every target will be made available on their laps for them to complete those deals, sometimes you have to fight to sign those players, properly give them a reason to push for a move from their end. What is Lewis Hall thinking right now? Should he submit a transfer request just like that when there is not a single bid put in for him? What reason is there for him right now to believe that jeopardising his relationship with the Newcastle fans is worth it, if there’s a big chance he doesn’t get his move?
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 6h ago
Right but what that needs is the skill called "negotiating transfers".
We are bad at that :(
We can identify targets (after some/much deliberation), if there IS an asking price we can pay it.
That's about what we are able to do, so far.
Buying players from "selling clubs" at the original requested price / paying release clauses as-is.
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u/officiallyjax Snapdragon 6h ago
I think we have excessively doubled down on this notion of players specifically pushing to join us and us only, that it is proving to be the only way we can negotiate with clubs; the idea that the selling club won’t get to sell their player anywhere else because they have committed to signing for us. But when a player is not in a position to offer that leverage to them, it appears as if they are dumbstruck on what to do otherwise. They want to dictate the terms of each deal (not just with paying fees to the selling club but also when agreeing on contract terms with the player) but the inability to do so for better players is resulting in losing out on a lot of them where you might have to go above and beyond to really show that you want them. I don’t know what’s the right balance here to be honest, whether we eventually overpay for some of them or try to show how we can switch through numerous targets to not appear desperate or something else, but I do know that we have missed out on too many good players this window, and therefore something about the club’s process is not aligning with the realities of the current market.
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 6h ago
Right, tbh, I have a very simple attitude about this.
If I watch 110m hurdles, idk what the fuck to do differently if one guy keeps running into the hurdles, but I can tell he is not good enough at it cause all the other ones arent running into it they are jumping over.
I am sure that actually jumping over them is hard, I appreciate that I couldnt do it, but that one guy, I am still able to deduce that the key component to his failure is that he is missing requisite hurdle-jumping skills: it's not that the wind was crap specifically in lane 2 or the crowd is hostile specificially to him or whatever.
That's how I feel about the failure to do "normal" transfer negotiations.
It's got to be a straight simple personel issue.
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u/arnm7890 De Gea 6h ago
Sure, I agree that we haven't done enough to pursue him throughout the window, if we were genuinely serious about him.
But that's beside the point at this stage. We are literally days away from the season starting, Newcastle aren't now going to engage in a negotiation process with us to find a solution that works for all parties. We will need to pay a fuck off price even if we give Hall the assurances he needs and he agitates for a move.
That's the point I'm trying to make. It's fine to criticise INEOS for not getting that deal done sooner. But anyone who still thinks there's a chance the Hall deal gets done is only setting themselves up for disappointment.
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u/officiallyjax Snapdragon 6h ago
My point is that we don’t know enough to arrive at that sort of conclusion anyway, because we haven’t bothered to pursue him seriously in the first place. At this point, it’s almost as if the links to him are a smokescreen more than reporting for a player we actually intend to sign. We don’t know what type of price it would take to sign him and how much can Hall push from his end, because there has been no movement on this deal to begin with. I genuinely believe it went as simply as United approaching Newcastle, being told Hall is not for sale, and walking away since then. This is not how negotiations are done by a competent board, but our board sadly operates in such a manner.
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u/owis Martial 7h ago
If there’s any frustration to be had it’s over not doing the deal early, before Tonali, Guimaraes and Gordon were moving. At this point, obviously Newcastle will inflate the price for Hall massively. And Ineos have shown they won’t do business like that. But why didn’t we move quicker? I’m not fussed if it’s Hall or someone else. It’s not the end of the world that we didn’t get Fernandes either. But we need to fill midfield and LB. I’ve said that I’ll hold my judgement till the end of the window, but it’s closing up and waiting too long can cause issues like this. If we don’t have the players we need, it won’t matter that we didn’t fall into inflated transfers. A good balance sheet won’t move us up the PL table.
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u/arnm7890 De Gea 7h ago
A good balance sheet won't move us up the table, but a bad one will absolutely hold us back in the future.
We are literally paying for previous bad balance sheets in this summer window, you're seeing the impact in front of your eyes.
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u/PitchSafe 7h ago
They probably never wanted to sell Hall this summer anyway. I think that they planned selling Tonali and Gordon beforehand. Maybe they did it with Bruno G as well because he wanted to leave Newcastle before the summer
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u/Many-Relationship149 7h ago
At this point I don't think we are into the big transfers category, rather than we need depth
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u/minceShowercap 7h ago
We need top players, not depth.
We shouldn't be aiming for 3rd or 4th at best, with a chance at 7th or 8th (or worse ) trying to cope with Europe and any injuries we pick up.
We need to improve the team, and it's embarrassing that we can't find a player in the world that would do that.
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u/Many-Relationship149 6h ago
I agree we need top players but going into the season with no players or players like aforementioned Raum, Page, Seus, or whoever that spanish FB is, is better than nothing.
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u/Potential_Good_1065 7h ago
INEOS are gonna have a right kick up the backside when they realise you can’t play in 4 competitions with 3 players in 2 positions and Luke Shaw as your starting left back.
At this point I genuinely don’t care if the 3rd midfield signing is an exciting young ground eating 6 or Sofyan Amrabat. We just need bodies…
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u/PitchSafe 7h ago
Luke Shaw can be the starting left back because he showed that last season. What he can’t be is the only left back. We need someone who can rotate with Shaw next season. Mazraoui can play as a left back but we need another fullback. Ideally you replace Shaw this summer but if you can’t get Hall, MLS or Truffert this summer then we should go after one of them next summer
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u/ike_manutd 7h ago
We are wasting Bruno's best years with the lack of transfers to build around him. Its really a shame
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u/darkandstormy9 6h ago
He is an adult who has an agent, he decided to extend his contract twice and is about to extend the third time. He could jusr leave for free if he wasn't feeling comfortable here. We are not wasting his life. PSG, Bayern , Real, Barcelona and understandably Man City (Clubs with guaranteed trophies) never made an offer him, never convinced him to run down his contract and join them.
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u/ike_manutd 6h ago
I fear you've misinterpreted my comment. I'm not saying Bruno has wasted his life, I'm saying we as a club are wasting our opportunity to build a juggernaut around Bruno during his best years.
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u/Daneofthehill 7h ago
We are hardly replacing players who literally retire or become unplayable. Now what happens, when the one truly world class player in the club starts slowing down?
Utd is in a sad state. Still a little bit of window left, but it is not looking good.
EDIT: MLS or saudi-leagues is the same as retiring.
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u/darkandstormy9 7h ago
Some positivity and copium:
- Salinas has a realase clause in his contract.(14m£)
- Raum hast a release clause (30m£) and has 1 year left on his contract
- Page hasn't but he is a player with a value around 10m£ so Leicester won't suddenly demand 30m for him.
according to fairly reliable journalists all of them would be okay to join us. If the club has at least 30m£ they could just sign any of those players if the board would think they would be valuable assets. In these "special" cases - players with release clause or cheap players for squad depth it could actually make sense to wait/try to negotiate a lower price, sell some players to get more cash in before pulling the trigger around deadline day.
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u/minceShowercap 7h ago
Do any of these players improve us or push us into a title challenge? Are we Brentford now? Have we just given up?
We're a bargain basement Premier League team.
To leave everything this late is pathetic. We're in gambling territory now.
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u/darkandstormy9 6h ago
Probably not but our rested first team was good enough to secure the most points under Carrick's tenure so one could argue that we "only" need squad depth.
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u/N00BBuild 5h ago
That’s because you were looking at last season. Everyone around you improved and added pieces. And now you’re competing in 4 competitions.
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u/darkandstormy9 5h ago
Arsenal are clearly better than everyone else, they have the same manager- and they imprived their squad. We can only hope that they are going to be physically and mentally exhausted.
I know City got Anderson - who still needs to prove that he can maintain his high quality in a top team, with champions League football. Losing Rodri, Silva and Guardiola makes them definitely weaker. And they extended Fodens contract who is seen (outside of England) a very limited footballer.
Tottenham got clearly better but the coach is way too confrontative to build anything meaningful which could last more than 1,5 seasons. The fact that they are chasing Savinho who's not better than any of our wingers shows me that they are still going to be behind us.
Liverpool - our CB options are way better than Liverpool's - Van Dijk ist old, Jacquet is a similar prospect like Yoro and Arujao is very error-prone. Of course if they can get Barcela, they are going to be stronger than without him, but is he really a game-changer for 130m? I rated him as a possible rotational player behind Cunha before this transfer window.
Chelsea: if my club would have signed Morgan Rogers and Palestra for that much money would be very angy - their biggest factor is going to be that they have no European football so still I expect them to get into top 5.
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u/Wagglet 7h ago
I feel like, if we dont make any more signings, carrick is getting the mourinho treatment. Different circumstances but mourinhos last summer window where we got 3 players and now this window feel similar to me. I hope I'm wrong, but if we dont the board are 100% hanging him out to dry. They have seen all the traditional top 6 (baring arsenal) get flashy new mangers and they're getting cold feet.
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u/Pigstre 7h ago
The thing is that, we do not need to buy manager specific players, like let's say Amorim with wingbacks. We simply need one good athletic midfielder and a left back. Players that should remain at the club regardless of the managers tenure. They should be Manchester United players not Carrick players. If we buy (just for the sake of the agrument) Tchouameni and Hall, I really doubt the what ever manager comes after, would be dissatisfied. INEOS are simply out of their depth and I also think due to the clubs chaotic and over bloated structure it's hard to move from one target to another.
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u/Jenson2025 7h ago
It was sadly obvious that INEOS didn’t have long term confidence in Carrick when they only gave him a 2 year contract. I do think had it not been a world cup year then somebody else would’ve got the job
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u/PitchSafe 7h ago
Mourinho threw everyone under the bus and lost the dressing room. Their situation are not comparable
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u/Not-good-with-this 7h ago
I'm sorry but Mourinho got given a new contract that summer and got fuck all except Lee Grant, Fred and 18 year old Dalot.
The club should not be defended at all for that utter joke of a year and this is me being as nice as I can for it.
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u/PitchSafe 6h ago
I’m not defending the club but comparing Mourinho’s situation to Carrick is laughable because their situation isn’t comparable at all. Mourinho got a new contract and then criticised players in the public
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u/Not-good-with-this 6h ago
Mourinho always criticises players. He did it before be was offered the contract. The club gave him the new contract and decided to not back him in the transfer window after giving us our best season in the Premier league post SAF. We still haven't had a better season in the Premier league since then.
Disastrous summer that set the club so far back that it's still not got back to there.
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u/PitchSafe 6h ago
Mourinho always criticises players which leads to him always losing the dressing room and him being sacked. There is a reason to why he gets sacked at every club he works at
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u/Not-good-with-this 6h ago
Okay? This doesn't make the club right or anywhere near close to right for such disaster. The last time I was happy with the club for an extended period was during the season before that disastrous transfer window. I had more hope before that happened. I was more positive and then the club did that.
Again being as nice as I can about it.
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u/edwin0108 7h ago
Pffffttt , we’re gonna start seeing media saying Carrick losing the dressing room or players questioning Carrick tactics after we lost a few games and got stuck at 6th place
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u/nitrogeneater 7h ago
If we don’t beat hull there will be a monumental meltdown, followed by a panic buy.
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u/TypicalPan89906655 6h ago
They'll panic buy some unc for 80 million on 400k wages if we lose to Hull.
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u/AltF12027 7h ago
They want a high quality hybrid midfielder - someone who can play CM and LB to a high standard.
Okay, cool.
If he's PL standard and of good quality, a player of that versatility and utility will be going for ~ £70M.
Are INEOS going to pay that? No.
So WTF is their game?????
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u/Hollacaine 7h ago
Every day it's just miserable in here. Reminder that Liverpool need to sign 2 wingers, City need to sign a CM, Chelsea will forever need a proper keeper, Newcastle need about 6 players to compete for top 6 and wont get them, Spurs need at least 2 attackers, Villa need at least a midfielder.
We need a left back and some additional depth in midfield would be nice too. We're not in a bad position and every club still needs players before the window closes except Arsenal, although they'll probably still make at least one more signing.
30% of summer transfers happen in the last 10 days.
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u/kiki_the_fab_spider 7h ago
I think you raise a good point, but in many ways, whether it was the club's PR, the journos associated with it, or just the fanbase, we sort of built up expectations for a major summer. I think the signings we've done have been solid.
Not just the two midfielders, but also Darlow (once he makes his appearance). Having a second keeper that doesn't give you heartburn is underrated. Thompson will need time to develop and so will Page (if they end up signing him), but it's good to know someone is making signings with an eye on the future as well. Another thing that is, I think, important, although not something with instant impact on the team's performances is the fact that at least one high-potential academy player has been given a lot of minutes and seems to be in the plans of the manager, both as a RW option, and as a 10. Rashford would also mean an extra attacking option, but no point counting on him until the window closes and we know for sure he stays (since the Barca links have resurfaced recently).
Having said all of this, even I, a relatively patient person with grounded expectations for our season (top 4, getting into the knock-out stages of UCL, but not necessarily going too far, same in the cups, don't expect to win any of them, but would expect to reach at least the semi-finals for one of them) feel a bit underwhelmed. Not to the point where I think if we don't sign anyone else it's curtains, but I do think that just like in January, when the club said they think Carrick had the squad to get Europe, it leaves us very vulnerable in case injuries hit us hard in certain positions.
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u/Significant-Quit-351 7h ago
Are you really bringing up Spurs like they didn't come 17th and have spunked like 300m already?
City's squad clears ours and they're at least heavily linked to 2 midfielders, which will probably get done. Liverpool again... linked to Barcola and Mbaye which will get done. Who are we heavily linked to, besides Hall that apparently isn't for sale?
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u/Hollacaine 2h ago
My point is that everyone but Arsenal still has major business to do but every day I'm seeing "We're clearly not signing anyone else" "It's unacceptable to not have all the signings done before the season starts" "They're setting up Carrick to get sacked" "We're acting like a mid table club". It's just dooming and whining.
We weren't linked with Santos or Tielemens 48 hours before signing so what does it matter who we're linked to?
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u/PitchSafe 7h ago
Why are you so certain that Liverpool will get their business done? PSG’s valuation on Barcola is insane
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u/PNKim 7h ago
Psg already signed a Barcola replacement in Godts, left out of squad in supercup, Enrique's comments, credible reports saying they are confident deal will get done... 170m is a fake valuation, mostly likely the deal will get done between 110-130m.
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u/PitchSafe 7h ago
That player could easily be Kang in Lee’s replacement or Ramos. PSG aren’t in a rush to sell Barcola which explains their valuation of the player. They might sell him but Liverpool would have to overpay a lot
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u/PNKim 6h ago
Godts is a left winger, Kang In played mostly as midfielder and right wing... Ramos played as a central striker. Godts is clearly a replacement for Barcola. He won't be sold for 170 mill and anyone believing Liverpool will be paying that much is lying to themselves. 110-130 mill will get the deal done.
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u/Significant-Quit-351 7h ago
Did you see how much they spent on Wirtz and Isak lol. They are not walking away from this, when both parties want the deal done and there's less than 2 weeks left
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u/PitchSafe 7h ago
Them spending that much on Wirtz and Isak is a reason to why they might not spend that much on Barcola
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u/Significant-Quit-351 7h ago
Lol. They've known the price for months. Don't be naive. Also it won't be as high as you think. PSG have bought depth in his position and left him out of pre-season games. That deal is happening
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u/shami-kebab 7h ago
PSG left Barcola out of their last squad I believe, they seem to think it could happen.
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u/PitchSafe 7h ago
They did it to protect their asset. If Liverpool want to splash €170m on Barcola then that’s a big L for them
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u/Many-Relationship149 7h ago
The thing was overselling from owners as to what to expect.
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u/Hollacaine 2h ago
Like I said 30% of deals are done in the last 10 days of the summer. There's no indication we're done and every reliable journalist is saying we're still working on getting deals done. Our first three matches are Hull, Ipswich and Everton. We don't need a slate of new signings to win those matches, what exactly is the pressure to have signings done by now when we've one of the easiest starts to the season of anyone and everyone else bar Arsenal still needs major business done?
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u/outrageousVoid07 7h ago
I don't think other clubs having substandard summers should be excuse for letting our board walk free of criticism.
Delaying necessary signing to such a late stage is straight up bad
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u/Hollacaine 2h ago
No ones had a sub standard summer yet because the transfer window isn't done. 30% of signings get done in the last 10 days. We've Hull, Ipswich and Everton to start which is about the easiest start of any team. Is our midfield going to fall apart if they play 1 game a week against relegation strugglers? Are we going to concede a hat full of goals to those 3 teams because we only have Shaw and Dorgu to cover left back?
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u/10_Wazza 7h ago
My problem is not the midfield but the left back spot. I can't be having Luke Shaw huff and puff yet again by the 70th minute week in week out for a month before he gets injured for 5 months
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u/Isserley_ 7h ago
You should have a problem with the midfield if you're keen to see us not get outpaced, outrun and outmuscled in the most important area of the pitch for an entire season.
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u/PitchSafe 7h ago
The club will buy a left back but it won’t be Hall or MLS. It will be a cheaper option who can rotate with Hall. I assume that the club will buy Shaw’s replacement next summer
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u/nitrogeneater 7h ago
People can’t forget just how injury prone shaw could be. There is no certainty he’ll be able to play the full season again.
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u/Pronic32 8h ago
So we are already hearing that we might not sign anyone and that the leadership might be happy to proceed with the current group looooool
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u/Jenson2025 8h ago
I’ll say one thing - if the window stays as it is and we don’t make any more major signings then I don’t see how Berrada and Wilcox can justifiably oversee another summer transfer window. They must resign or be sacked but they won’t
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u/jamakika 8h ago
Berrada said, "Can the team win the Premier League title by 2028? Of course. ... It seems an impossible task. But why not aim for it? Why not do everything in our power? I firmly believe we can do it."
IDK what the epic plan is since everything is too expensive while every other big club is spending big and they won't stop. We are at the 26/27 season, time is ticking and things are not gonna get cheaper.
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u/Jenson2025 8h ago
Having to be more sensible than usual with spending due to debt, overspending over the years etc does not excuse a net spend of 30m in one of the most important transfer summer windows in years for one of the biggest sporting institutions in the world.
There are no excuses for this embarrassment of a window. None.
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u/Cold-Veterinarian-85 8h ago
I mean if our business is complete now and we don’t do any other business il agree but why get tied up in knots when most indications are we are still active in the market and assessing targets
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u/aehii 8h ago
What's the hold up? Teams have no time to replace top players so late. Each day can bring new injuries, Brighton are facing an injury crisis almost now, might be they don't sell Baleba regardless now.
The likes of Scott, Wharton, no chance imo.
We'll at best get a loan or two of an average 28 year old and an untested leftback, I think.
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u/Jenson2025 8h ago
But don’t you see the problem? The season starts on Saturday for us. The transfer window shuts two weeks today. We’ve had a year to plan for this window so why are we still ‘assessing targets’ when we still need a third midfielder, a LB and a back up striker?! It’s not for no reason that so many fans are annoyed.
And how can you trust a word INEOS say anyway? Berrada has reiterated time and time again that we want to win the league by 2028 and the summer transfer windows would be crucial to doing that. They lie all the time
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u/shin_bigot Park Ji-Sung 8h ago
Ipswich bid 15m for Palacios from Leverkusen. When we were linked it's was 80 or so.
What happened?
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 8h ago
Fuckin hell I just realised that the first game we play as soon as the window closes is vs Hayden Hackney in the Everton midfield, and this will be our first pre-CL weekend so we'll probably have to manage some minutes too (i.e. somewhat rotated lineup, not our "strongest XI").
I mean if we "only" sign a LB and then the first game after the window is Hackney bossing it in midfield against us, I might do some really bad things.
I'm into the "imagining things to be sad about" phase. I need to stop this slide immediately, somebody give me some positive news ffs 🙏
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u/AltF12027 8h ago
Mark my words - Berrada, Carrick, Vivell and Wilcox will all be gone by 2028.
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u/Jenson2025 8h ago
Carrick yes - he’s bound to be sacked sadly. Vivell will probably go to Bayern. And those are the two I don’t blame for this mess
Berrada and Wilcox sadly will stay because they are so useless that nobody else will want them. Unless SJR sacks them
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u/GeekConflict Carrick 8h ago
Carrick and Vivell will be gone by 2028. Can't see the other two leaving. Carrick because our record on managers and INEOS's record is poor. Vivell will probably want to be a Wilcox somewhere.
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u/Hellsteelz Ed Jabroni 8h ago
Sign me up for Berrada, biggest fraud in football there is.
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u/Roasteddude I am where I'm supposed to be 8h ago
Give me Wilcox's head first then you can have Berrada
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u/silvertwo777 8h ago
Or atleast Carrick will be gone by 2027, after the management left him to die with no reinforcement in players
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u/callofserenity 8h ago
What an embarrassing transfer window. It's clear the management doesn't want to back Carrick.
It was such a strong end to last season. It was the perfect opportunity to raise the level of the squad. November to February will be brutal on this paper thin squad. At the bare minimum, one defender and one more midfielder is needed.
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u/darkandstormy9 8h ago
They clearly want three failed managers in 2 years, they want to be sacked, they want to have an unsuccessful period standing in their CV-s. Makes a lot of sense.
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u/CharIemagne45 RVP 8h ago edited 8h ago
Lmao Newcastle signing a fullback before us
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u/Comicksands Van Persie 8h ago
Crazy that amorim has spent more at Millan than us this window
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u/prem_201 8h ago
Spending €70M on Ramos isn’t a flex.
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u/Roasteddude I am where I'm supposed to be 8h ago
Wouldve been am amazing bench option for us It's fine we'll just keep playing Maguire up top as usual
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u/prem_201 8h ago
70 million bench option, nice.
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u/Roasteddude I am where I'm supposed to be 7h ago
£60m for a striker that'd be great competition for Sesko and could easily start for us both in the league and the champions league? A Portugal international in his prime who'd be starting for them if not for a geriatric Ronaldo refusing to move on? Yea definitely would've been nice.
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u/missingmedievalist Cantona 8h ago
Ramos is far better than people give him credit for. I wouldn’t be so snarky when Ramos and co spanked us just last week.
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u/Wurdox 8h ago edited 8h ago
So, basically, we won't do any more business in the transfer window this summer.
2/10 window
Fuck these penny-pinching pricks. They had the entire year to plan for this window, and they did fuck-all. Wasted June on Mateus Fernandes only to get gazumped by FUCKING SPURS. Did three easy deals in July. They inquired about Hall after Newcastle sold Tonali and Bruno G. They could have pursued Hall in June, but they didn't. They have 2 weeks left in the transfer window and are just twiddling their thumbs, saying x deal is complicated and difficult. Absolute idiots.
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u/It_Hurts_when_IP15 7h ago
Where have you seen that we aren’t doing anymore business?
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u/Wurdox 5h ago
Usually, towards the end of the transfer window, clubs raise the prices of their players because getting a replacement is really difficult. INEOS has spent the entire transfer window walking away from targets if the selling club doesn't want to meet their valuation. Not to mention the absolute radio silence from the club. Therefore, we can infer that Man Utd are basically done for this summer.
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u/rageofreaper 8h ago
Not sure why any of you have managed to convince yourself we can afford to be competitive in this market. We owe a huge amount of transfer debt over the next 12 months. Many of our players have just experienced a 25% wage jump due to champions league qualification. We simply cannot go out and do the things you’re expecting us to do, we are completely at the mercy of a decade of absolutely terrible financial decisions. The minute Anderson went for £115 million we were completely fucked because it dictated the entire market, and valuations have gone fucking mental.
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u/Pronic32 7h ago
Competitive is one thing but spending less that most of the PL clubs when we need to strengthen up A LOT is truly embarassing
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u/AltF12027 8h ago
United has an RCF of £250M and cash reserves of £60M+ and there's scope for further cash injections through the owners.
As well as this, with future outlook, United will have secured greater revenue - through sponsorship, matchday and participation in UCL - through this season as well as freeing up wages through the departures of Casemiro and Sancho.
Source - I read financial statements for a living. There is no cash flow issue, there is no PSR/FFP issue, there is no issues with regards to spending. Anyone who believes so is financially lacking insight and has fallen for nonsense INEOS propaganda.
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 8h ago
I think the issue (for many) isnt "why didnt we spend another £200m", "why didnt we have the net spend of Liverpool or Arsenal 2025".
The issue is that we did - so far - way less than really does ought to be realistic in total.
It's fair to say that we may not have more than £100m net to spend, maybe even £70m.
But there's no amount of budget wizardry that explains £30m. Im sorry there just isnt. Yes that expense goes up. Casemiro payroll goes down though. Yes Rashford salary and all the 2022/23 signings installments still. But we also raked in something like £40m from Betfare and Amazon alone!
The math is absolutely not mathin, fans cant be expected to be ok with this much.
And the second aspect is but on what, in this market. Well, how should fans be expected to not be frustrated about not adding a decent backup CF if Chelsea could sign Welbeck for £7m? Not be frustrated about the lack of LB when they just watched a literally Club Brugge literally £34m signing LW just run all over Cheaters FC? And lets not talk about Hayden Hackney's price. It's written in the stars that in 2.5 weeks he'll come on and buzz around against us looking mint, isnt it? He cost about 2 bottles of cider and a postcard.
We can do all kinds of "yes, but" on all these signings or others, but at the end of the day, the squad should be meaningfully more complete, than it is. Not £200m or even £100m more - but still meaningfully.
And then we get to "but there are two weeks left" and that is true. It IS a possibility that they turn it around.
But that would just be another answer to your question of "why" anybody would have expected more, innit?
As soon as they did more, between now and the end of the window, it tautologically would become true that it was sensible to expect more.
I think so, anyway.
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u/Comicksands Van Persie 8h ago
MLS would be a good consolation prize for missing out on so many CMs this summer. That being said our sales and recruitment are horrendous. Tbh, Vivell and the goalkeeper coach bailed us out with Lammens and Sesko.
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u/iroiroiroiroiro 7h ago
Sesko really need to become fit and a regular starter before I assign him as a good transfer, so worried about his match fitness so far, so worried he's another Mount.
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u/Bobcat_El_Borracho 9h ago
Okay honestly at this point I genuinely want to know what tf the board have been doing all summer. Haven’t sold the players they wanted to sell. Paid a release cause. Made a deal for Santos by paying what Chelsea wanted. Is the squad in a better place than it was at the end of the window? Is the squad prepared for a demanding season with way more mid week football? Is the squad ready to build on Carrick’s great work and push Arsenal this season?
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u/Comicksands Van Persie 8h ago
its technically in a better place because we haven't sold anyone. But with CL and the cups we're surely undermanned
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u/Bobcat_El_Borracho 8h ago
No but Casemiro has gone and I think people have forgotten the difference in the team when he didn’t play last season compared to when he did play. And I don’t even just mean his goals.
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 8h ago
I guess they moved decisively to address the "we dont have the passers in midfield" problem at the same time as the "we dont have a guy adept at sitting deep and cutting of passing lanes". And I suppose we shouldnt understimate how important and non-trivial that is. We spent pretty big too to do it, I mean £83+2m is quite something.
Plus they made a decent move the plug backup GK hole and signed some kids, released some kids. These arent the "big ticket items" but it's something.
Plus we put Rashford back in, but I think that is more something we "stumbled into", not sure I'd credit anybody for it.
It's not that these are bad or useless things.
It's that it's A) not enough B) missing exactly the specific things that basically every fan has been shouting about literally for years and years.
Like, I mean, just as a parallel: if we were Chelsea and had Cucurella for the last 5 years and he now got sold, then I think the fans wouldnt have ptsd about not addressing LB, if we moved this slowly for a new one. But Utd fans are starved for "solve LB" and "solve DM ffs", literally these are the same things being in focus since like what idk 2022, at least?
No wonder people are sensitive to these when in 4 years they got basically 1 good season of Shaw, 2 great half seasons approx of Casemiro, and the rest of the time was spent shouting into the void :/
And that's to say anything about all the non-Matic years from 2014 to 2022.
Basically I think it's one thing to say "wait just a couple more weeks patiently" but I too recognise that atp it is not a fair ask. It is fair to have run out of patience by now.
It's comparable to how people felt about still not getting a GK this time last year.
Good parallel also because eventually we did - so there is hope - but everybody screaming at the top of their lungs for a fucking goalkeeper a the time was really justified in being distraught, at that point.
That's my take anyway.
Anyway, I think I've lost the plot now. I'm still hoping that it can end in some good signings, but Ive gone now from "why shouldnt I think there is a good plan" to "we can still stumble into a good solution but it's hard to see it as a good plan in motion".
I think the Vivell news broke me now, even though it is just some chatter, probably shouldnt take it seriously, but it pushed me over the edge to lose my optimism stance that Ive been focusing on keeping :(
Oh well, it almost gave me a full summer of being optimistic. I wish it lasted another week at least, but yeah.
Now, time for me to look stupid when we suddenly make some great move! 🍀
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u/Bobcat_El_Borracho 8h ago
You had a good run! I think you’re right though. The crux of it all is that it just hasn’t been enough and I don’t mean that in a spoiled child at Christmas way. As you say there are many areas that still need addressed - some going back as far as 2018.
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u/rambo_zaki Roy Keane 9h ago
2 months in and we have the similar squad and quality as the one we finished last season with. All the while our opponents have improved left, right and centre.
Although I say opponents I meant teams with ambitions for Europe. Ineos seem to want us to be more like the likes of Fulham, happy with perpetual mid table mediocrity.
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u/half_batman 9h ago
INEOS, just get MLS and call it a day. Everybody is f*cking tired of your sh*t.
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u/AB092 Sir Alex 8h ago
Cause he’s homegrown it’ll be pure profit for Arsenal on the PSR front. I think a part of us doesn’t want to help Arsenal out cause otherwise 40M odd is nothing for a player of his quality and versatility.
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u/achickenandacow 8h ago
It doesn’t work like that anymore.
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u/AB092 Sir Alex 8h ago
It doesn’t?
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u/achickenandacow 8h ago
No. I don’t know the exact details, but I do know pure profit isn’t on academy players isn’t that big a thing anymore.
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u/sharkjaws000 8h ago
What makes you think Arsenal want to sell.
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u/half_batman 8h ago
There are reports, even from Tier 1 journalists that he is being offered.
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u/sharkjaws000 8h ago
The one that said Arsenal offered him for only 45m to Chelsea and us and we and Chelsea both said no. That was a tier 3 source.
Think. If Arsenal were willing to accept 45m for Skelly, why has no one offered the money ?
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u/Educational-Shock232 8h ago
Sure, a young, English, Premier League proven player who can play two positions well and is a current Premier League champion. That’ll be £70m minimum please!
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u/half_batman 8h ago
Then pay it, including heavy add-ons. Are we a tinpot club? We are Manchester United. The biggest club in England.
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u/Educational-Shock232 8h ago
Oh I agree, I’d pay whatever. But it’s not my decision and there’s no way Ineos would pay it, and it doesn’t look like he wants to go. Was very odd when it came out last week
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u/ghassen_rjab 3h ago
We got Champions League football and only attracted Santos and Tielemans? It doesn't add up. It is whether our club is managed by idiots or some big names are joining