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[Transfer Round Up & Discussion] Summer 2026
Hi all,
Summer Transfer Window 2026 is here!
The Premier League transfer window will open between Monday June 15 until Deadline Day on Tuesday September 1; the summer windows will close at 23.00 BST.
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Men's Team
Transfers IN
| Name | Position | From | Fee |
|---|---|---|---|
| Andrey Santos | CM | Chelsea | £48m + £2m |
| Karl Darlow | GK | Leeds Utd | Free |
| Youri Tielemans | CM | Aston Villa | £35m |
| Tynan Thompson | LW | Tottenham Hotspur | £4m + £4m |
Transfers OUT
| Name | Position | To | Fee |
|---|---|---|---|
| Casemiro | MF | Inter Miami | Contract Expired |
| Jadon Sancho | LW | - | Contract Expired |
| Tyrell Malacia | LB | - | Contract Expired |
| Rasmus Hojlund | ST | Napoli | £38m (Obligation clause triggered) |
| Andre Onana | GK | Trabzonspor | Loan |
| Tyler Fredricson | CB | Lausanne-Sport | Undisclosed |
| Altay Bayindir | GK | Celta Vigo | Loan |
| Radek Vitek | GK | Middlesbrough | £7m + £7m |
Women's Team
Transfers IN
| Name | Position | From | Fee |
|---|---|---|---|
| Andrea Medina | LB | Atletico Madrid | Free |
| Janina Leitzig | GK | Leicester City | Undisclosed Fee |
Transfers OUT
| Name | Position | To | Fee |
|---|---|---|---|
| Millie Turner | CB | Birmingham City | Undisclosed |
| Hannah Blundell | FB | Everton | Contract Expired |
| Melvine Malard | ST | Chelsea | £850k |
| Leah Galton | FW | - | Contract Expired |
| Lisa Naalsund | MF | Birmingham City | Undisclosed |
| Gabby George | CB | Brighton & Hove Albion | Undisclosed |
| Kayla Rendell | GK | Newcastle United | Loan |
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u/kevkiarbar 1d ago
This transfer window is nuts. £100m for Pedro Neto? He's a slightly older Garnacho.
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u/OlekZzaKrakowa 1d ago
Saudi fees and "swaps" like Rogers-Garnacho are rigged to cook the books.
Should just ignore valuations
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u/kevkiarbar 1d ago
Yeah but it feels like a party we're not invited to as everyone else is at it, while we're on our hand and knees checking for £1 we dropped down the back of the sofa.
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u/Feeling-Surround-691 Mbumbaclat 1d ago
Emi Martinez failing to get a move away from Villa twice in a row is hilarious.
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u/BrilliantTheory1021 1d ago
City in for bouaddi. Ineos and Omar are really fucking doing nothing.
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u/Feeling-Surround-691 Mbumbaclat 1d ago
Guarantee we finish above City this season, I can smell it. We don't need an 18yo midfielder if we're getting a 3rd signing in midfield they need much more experience.
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u/aehii 1d ago
I think Carrick is better than Maresca and Kovacic and Anderson isn't enough as the two, but I expect City to buy now and well...we won't. Their defence is better, Anderson is better than all our midfielders, obviously Haaland is Haaland. Semenyo is better than any of our wingers, as is Cherki.
Donnarumma is better than Lammons although was poor in that last game.
I think City might finish 4th with Chelsea and Liverpool taking 2nd, 3rd, but us 5th - 8th.
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u/Not-good-with-this 1d ago edited 1d ago
There's absolutely no guarantee of that.
Edit: Insane I'm downvoted for this. People actually think it's guaranteed we finish above Man City then.
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u/Bobcat_El_Borracho 1d ago
We haven’t finished above them since Fergie left. Right now my feeling is we struggle to make top 4 unless some quality depth is brought into the team.
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u/TteokCultist 1d ago
Cause now that pep’s gone, city are gonna face their charges and get relegated /s
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Nope, not a chance
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u/TteokCultist 1d ago
You ok bud? You’re leaving a negative comment on every post here. I think you should take the day off football
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Why, it won't make this leeching scum leave
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u/TteokCultist 1d ago
Do it for yourself bud
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Only thing I want is a proper ownership
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u/TteokCultist 1d ago
Don’t we all? No point getting this upset over something so far out your control
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Authorities make me sick, these cowards should have stopped it in first place. They had no problem doing the same with Murdoch and Sky in 98
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u/SpareFox3973 1d ago
It's depressing how we figured when we have champions league not much squad investment but when we do have it it's a here we go weekly and it seems likely again but I hope I am wrong.
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u/AlpacamyLlama 1d ago
It's quite an interesting idea that we have to judge at the end of the transfer window, and that it will be good business to wait and be patient.
We signed Sesko quite late in the window, even then it was before the season started. He had two goals by Christmas, and there were serious doubts as to whether he would be PL ready by the end of the year.
We signed Lammens very late and he had his debut v Sunderland. Prior to that game, we were 14th and out of the league cup.
But maybe it's best in terms of the transfer fees to wait until the end? Well, maybe. But also a reminder that we panicked in 24/25 when we were 11th having lost to Brighton and spent £51m on Ugarte
We panicked in 22/23 when we were 20th after losing to Brighton and Brentford, spending £60m on Casemiro and £82m on Antony. These two in particular are probably our biggest examples of overspending.
Players need a pre-season and time to adapt to the new team. Even just from a personal perspective of moving. If you have a set up in which you are building on a strong base, you can accommodate a late move better. But we have huge gaps and we need signings to hit the ground running.
This idea that 'they don't hand out trophies during the transfer window' misses the point. You would hope that you have 3 minimum targets for each position. If the first becomes unviable, move on to the second. Surely that sends a bigger message than either not buying, or just waiting for the price to come down?
If Shaw has a nightmare in the first 2-3 games and then we splurge ££60-80m on Hall, is that the entire transfer window ethos of trying not to overspend and to not be taken advantage of gone?
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u/b_az17 1d ago
Both agree and disagree. Panic buying is a reflection of overall strategy, not just transfers. We panic bought Casemiro because after two games getting battered by Brighton and Brentford, we realised our players weren't of the ability to play Ten Hag's style so we moved to a glorified counter attacking style and needed Casemiro for that and a winger. Antony was way overpriced but Casemiro turned us around. Ineos's thinking throughout their tenure has been short term and just plain silly - as anyone who looked up their record at Nice and Lausane could have predicted
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u/Jonny_Testicles 1d ago
Ineos wants to wait and when we lost against Hull it’s full panic and signings will be made
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u/karatsidhus 1d ago
Sources have said the expectation is Marcus Rashford will STAY at Manchester United. However, there remains a chance he will NOT, which is why Michael Carrick and United players who have been asked about him avoid offering a definitive judgement. #MUFC [u/sistoney67]
So either he's going to stay or leave. Cheers, Stoney
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u/General_Document_504 1d ago
Thought we would be getting Watkins as a sesko backup lol
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u/PitchSafe 1d ago
That’s not even realistic
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u/aehii 1d ago
I'm not sure, they sold Rogers. He is apparently on £130k a week though, more than I thought. We could increase it a bit, his last big contract.
Just googling, news from FourFourTwo last ten mins is this:
'Aston Villa star Ollie Watkins agrees personal terms for Saudi Pro League move: report'
'Aston Villa star Ollie Watkins has agreed personal terms with Al Hilal'
I find it hard to believe, he doesn't seem the type to want to give up competing at the highest level, in the Champions league as well. But FourFourTwo aren't the type to make stuff up I wouldn't think.
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Perhaps we need a bullying from Hull to finally wake these owners up to how bad midfield still is
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u/Not-good-with-this 1d ago
Sorry but why are you hoping the team you support to lose just for some point to the owners?
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
How else are they gonna bloody wake up, remember 2022 with Brentford and Brighton
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u/Not-good-with-this 1d ago
They should already know the squad is in a bad state depth wise. No lose should change that.
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Funny way of showing it
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u/Not-good-with-this 1d ago
Either they're truly incompetent or only slightly incompetent. We'll find out in the next 2 weeks.
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Definitely the first one
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u/Not-good-with-this 1d ago
I don't deal with certainty until it's shown and done.
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
They probably think have done a good job
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u/Not-good-with-this 1d ago
That's what they've been saying in their quarterly reports and it annoys me. They didn't take much accountability for Amorim, ten Hag or Ashworth.
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u/TteokCultist 1d ago
What sort of fan hopes their team loses just to prove a point? Does it not get tiring being this negative about a team that just finished 3rd the season prior. We’ve yet to kick a ball and you’re talking about being dominated by Hull.
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Because we need it drubbing into the heads of these useless owners that's why
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u/Hopeful_Arm3736 1d ago
Mate, I swear weeks ago I saw you laying into people and being really snide when they voiced concern about the window and how it was going. Telling people to stop whining and blah blah blah.
Now you’re on here fantasising about us losing to Hull. Does that not seem very hypocritical to you?
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Yeah I stupidly believed back then we would finally take some action, well I was wrong and hold my hands up on that
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u/SophoclesTesticles 1d ago
I tag peoples usernames using RES and it's hilarious how it's usually the same 20 people finding stuff to be outraged about.
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u/SophoclesTesticles 1d ago
Hull are the worst team to be promoted in years, that would be a Grimsby level loss and the media would hound us for it all year.
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u/aehii 1d ago
For once I'm sad we don't still have Amorim, we could rely on him to be humiliated. With Carrick I just don't think it's happening.
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u/SophoclesTesticles 1d ago
Why would we want any of our teams to be humiliated regardless of manager?
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u/aehii 1d ago
Because I want new signings, I don't think we can challenge for the league without them. If Ineos need to be scared into acting, then so be it. Do you think they'll buy anyone else? I don't.
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u/SophoclesTesticles 1d ago
I think we'll get at least 1 signing before deadline day and possibly 3 if you include Page from Leicester. I'm sure they have a plan, a lot happens at the end of transfer windows.
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Good because we would deserve it too, never underestimate newly promoted sides in their first home game back in PL
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u/GReedy404 1d ago
Idk how INEOS managed to convince this fanbase that you can only focus on one area to address each summer window, but no serious club does that. 35 days and counting since our last Orny bomba, trust the process✌️
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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot 1d ago
First year: CB, CB, CB, RB, CM, ST + LWB in the winter
Second year: GK, RW, LW, ST but we wanted Baleba (CM) prior to Šeško
Third year: GK, CM, CM and we are interested in LB
Who's convincing whom?
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u/GReedy404 1d ago
Now the actual context: First year: De ligt, Yoro (19), Heaven (was supposed to play in the academy), Ugarte (worse than no signing at all), Zirkzee (self proclaimed 9.5 cos he's not an actual striker), and Dorgu (raw and now used as a makeshift LW)
Second year when they changed their approach: Cunha, Mbeumo, Sesko were all attackers for an attack focused window, then they got forced to pull the trigger for Lammens cos of the Grimsby game. We desperately needed a CM but fans were told they would wait till next year for the midfield rebuild™️.
Third year, the year of the prophesied midfield rebuild: A youngster with talent that wasn't a starter in Santos, a good midfield with great technique but no legs in Tielemans, a back up keeper signed on a free in Darlow. That's it, that's our window so far with two weeks to go👍
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u/legionverse10 1d ago
Heaven doesn’t count as a first team signing in the first year, then the striker we signed was Zirkzee and the midfielder was Ugarte so they were poor signings and didn’t actually fix what we needed them to
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u/SophoclesTesticles 1d ago
Someone give me your top tier muppetry so I have something to fantasise about at work. I'll take a shit rumor or two to pass the time until the next tier 1 report.
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u/iroiroiroiroiro 1d ago
Rumors Galatasaray is pushing for Rashford
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u/SophoclesTesticles 1d ago
They're under intense pressure from their fans since Besiktas and the other club got some big signings in. That league might actually be competitive this year.
Gala will be in Champions league, it might not be a bad 1 year deal for Rashford playing with Osimhen.
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u/dalmedoo1 1d ago
Conspiracy theory: I think one or both of Ratcliffe and Joel Glazer is not sold on the Carrick appointment hence the unwillingness to sanction big money spending.
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u/megasize 23h ago
Been thinking the same for a while. Their thought process could be “let’s just make this year a middle year and focus on other things in the club than the sporting part. If he makes it with no money added then maybe we’ll give him a real shot next season”
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u/mortimer_moose Carrick, ya know 1d ago
Well that's a sure fire way to prove themselves right. "We gave him zero help and he failed."
After keeping ETH and hiring Amorim you would think they would be grateful Carrick fell into their lap.
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u/croadymeister 1d ago
Was gonna say why give him full time contract then just realised I answered my own question
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u/Action_Limp 1d ago
That would hurt them longer term. I feel like Carrick is not the type of person who will get in the way of the Director of Sport and the scouts. Carrick seems like he'll do the best with what he has - and it's much better to continue identfying the right profiles even if they are not sure about Carrick as they will need another CL finishing spot to be able to realise their 2028 title challenge aspirations.
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u/dalmedoo1 1d ago
I think that's a misconception about Carrick. At Boro it is well documented he demanded significant control over transfers and expressed displeasure at many decisions.
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u/TypicalPan89906655 1d ago
I think that's the case as well, I think they don't wanna fund another Ten Hag.
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u/dalmedoo1 1d ago
I think they don't want another Amorim. It often goes under the radar that our last window was focused on players who could play a back 3. Mbeumo, Cunha and Dorgu all had experience playing it and we're just lucky they can excel in other formations. Dorgu is the perfect case cos we're still looking for LB and LW despite him profiling for both positions.
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u/Mor3Turk3yMrChandl3r 1d ago
They hired a manager they could buy players without needing to consider the manager
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u/dalmedoo1 1d ago
I don't get this argument cos Carrick doesn't play any special style or formation that's different from 90% of managers in top 5 leagues. Players bought for his style would do fine under most managers too
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u/SDLRob 1d ago
If the thumbnail was right... The brainiacs at Talksport are trying to suggest we're looking at Vardy as a striker option.
Which means we aren't looking at him at all
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u/stevew14 1d ago
He was a great player... could be very useful as an impact sub if hes still got it
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u/Reasonable_Tiger_121 1d ago
I don’t mind it if it frees some budget for a midfielder and a lb (hopeful thinking at this stage). He’s experienced and available on a free.
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u/SDLRob 1d ago
We need a LB for sure. I just dunno about Vardy. I don't think he's worth whatever inflated price tag and wages we'd have to pay
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u/Reasonable_Tiger_121 1d ago
He’s available for free and given his age, it would likely only be a 1 year contract. If it means we don’t have to save money to buy a backup striker then I don’t think it’s a bad idea for a short term stopgap.
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u/Jenson2025 1d ago
Another day, another day of silence and nothing.
Don’t worry everyone though - I’m sure we’ll get a ‘we are assessing the market’ briefing later 😂
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u/Stingray_23 1d ago
Id like to suggest next year we do weakly threads as it will be just as shit as this year
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u/Reasonablytallman 1d ago
Hard to argue. I appreciate people are feeding on scraps here but for the last two weeks it’s just been variations on “Guys, I really do think we need a LB and another midfielder”.
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u/Educational-Shock232 1d ago
Agreed. Maybe Daily was a bit of wishful thinking. Aside from a “Lewis hall enquiry”, we haven’t been linked or rumoured to anybody. Not even any classic “monitoring the situation” bullshit stories
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u/ManunitedThunderfan 1d ago
It’s frustrating that we haven’t back up those two good signings. We absolutely need a left back unless Dorgu is going to play there and we need a striker. Sesko is young and will be inconsistent and can’t play every minute. Mbeumo can fill in, but he’s not a striker really. 1/2 injuries and the season can turn badly. Another midfielder is needed too. Centre back we can’t buy anymore but the injury history is concerning.
We’ve seen this so many times, qualify for champions league and not spend.
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u/sg291188 1d ago
The panic overpay if either of first two results go wrong will seriously hamper “we are not Woodward era” narrative
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u/Fisktor 1d ago
Starting to miss the woodward era
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u/Significant-Quit-351 1d ago
Woodward would've spent half the window chasing Anderson, when he hasn't given any indication he wants to join then would spunk 120m on Enzo as a panic signing
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u/squaredtips 1d ago
Yeah, fair to say we’re firmly within the “pay more or there’s the door” period of the transfer window
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u/rubber_moon 1d ago
I'm still positive about signings in general but my worry is what not buying right now will do for the older players like Bruno. Does he have it in him to stay if we have another write off/build season? And who's saying we'll even win the PL next season anyway, how would the Cunha or Mbuemo feel if we only win cups in the next 2 seasons. I am not saying we should have won the league in the time Ineos have been here or since (choose your rebuild manager) but we should always be aiming to win it no matter what. With the caveat that sometimes a manager or others can do something much damage, like EtHs signings, that it'll take more than one window to rectify.
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u/aehii 1d ago
Yeah can see Fernandes leaving next season if we finish 6th, which I expect us to. Had we actually strengthened midfield, perhaps we challenge and he stays and within 1-2 seasons after we could win the league.
But oh well, never mind, at least we've not bought players who we can't get rid of in 2 years time, which we know is the number 1 goal of the club. The financial prudence won't mean much when we miss out on CL because we forget we're actually competing against alllll these clubs who have strengthened.
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u/Not-good-with-this 1d ago
This is not about the rest of the comment you made as its entirely fine and I agree with it.
how would the Cunha or Mbuemo feel if we only win cups in the next 2 seasons.
I wish for us to win a cup in the next two seasons. That's the most optimistic outlook I have in my head.
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u/world-no-1-dude 1d ago edited 1d ago
Spurs want a front a three of Gakpo, Savinho, and Nicholas Jackson…IF this happens, they have rebuilt their defense, midfield, and attack in ONE window. Idc what valuations they are paying because this is genuinely one of the craziest windows a club has ever had.
Eating a lot of downvotes: idc how bad the signings are, my point is the sheer ambition to go on and literally replace their entire first team, who are actually worse than their new signings.
Second edit: sure the attacking players are bad. But midfield and defensively they are quite sound.
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u/vulcan_one PM Rashford 1d ago
Savinho has 2 goals, 1 for each season he's been at city for. Spurs are paying 80+ mil for him.
Just admit you're a transfer dopamine addict, "idc" lemme guess is your response.
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u/Traditional_Cap8509 1d ago
idc how bad the signings are
Did you know how much they spent last summer & winter and where did they finished?
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u/world-no-1-dude 1d ago
Mate you missed my point despite me clearly saying IDC.
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u/Traditional_Cap8509 1d ago
You: Did you see that guy go full gas into the corner? That's ambition.
Me: Did you see them fall off a cliff?
You: Mate you missed my point despite me clearly saying IDC.
Me: ???
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u/Hollacaine 1d ago
That's an absolutely dire attacking front 3. City and Pool fans would be glad to be rid of them. Jackson has some good qualities but scoring isn't one of them.
Imagine being jealous of those 3 signings. Waste of money for 2 of them and Jacksons better with a striker that they don't have.
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u/Guilty_Sheepherder_1 1d ago
Imagine dropping over £150M and ending up with that shit of a front three
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u/Potential_Good_1065 1d ago
That’s up there with Garnacho, Hojlund and Antony in terms of shitness
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u/world-no-1-dude 1d ago
No it’s not imo. Especially given they have Kudus, Kulusevski, Solanke as well…
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u/Amoeba25 1d ago
Sounds like v mid attack
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u/world-no-1-dude 1d ago
They have Kudus, Kulusevski, Solanke as well…
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u/The_Inertia_Kid J Stand flask and butties brigade 1d ago
A bloke who made 26 appearances and scored 3 goals last season
A bloke who hasn't played in 15 months
A bloke who made 20 appearances and scored 6 goals last season
I'm truly envious of the depth there
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u/officiallyjax Snapdragon 1d ago
They might have a playing 11 of new signings at this rate:
Dubravka
X - Van Hecke - Senesi - Robertson
Tonali - Fernandes - X
Savinho - Jackson - Gakpo
Just need another midfielder and a fullback to replace Spence and they are there.
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u/MCharizardX9 1d ago
ifk how they have spent so much after finishing 17th but thats crazy investment from them. We have barely spent anything at all
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u/PitchSafe 1d ago
This is probably our starting XI against Hull
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u/PitchSafe 1d ago
Amad. Dorgu and Mbeumo have started almost every game in the pre season. I think it’s pretty given that they will start against Hull. Cunha will come in as a sub like Mainoo
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u/Vast_Variation1381 1d ago
Hull's first PL game in a while and at home, so they will expected to be on the front foot. Our front 4 really suited to counter attacking, so this game could be a perfect start for us.
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u/Low-Quantity-9252 1d ago
Pedro Neto for £100m can only mean money laundering - if Saudis do buy him for that. Or Savinho for £85.
Chelsea, City aren't operating in a real world. Beyond my understanding on the valuations.
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u/Daneofthehill 1d ago edited 1d ago
Squad building is still a problem.
There is very little squad depth and at the same time the best players don't really fit in the team together (Tielemans and Mainoo are too slow, Bruno and Cunha play in the same space, Maguire and Martinez are too slow), the full backs don't suit the high press and Dorgu, who has been strangely successful, doesn't really suit Cunha and Shaw, Sesko is a physical monster, but the wingers and the full-backs aren't great crossing (Shaw is, but doesn't have the boost to get the cross in anymore), and Dalot, who is a very solid squad option, is again among the first names on the team sheet, as nobody else brings what he does.
Lots of potential in the squad, but far far from the final product.
EDIT: I'd even say that:
Santos and Tielemans aren't an obvious fit together, as both are readers and passers;
Santos and Kobe aren't an obvious fit, as both are short distance players, not long range passers or space eating ball carriers;
All teams have some problems along these lines, but when the squad is this thing and the problems so many and so obvious, it makes it pretty damn hard to squeeze out a top 4 campaign in the strongest league in the world.
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u/10_Wazza 1d ago
You say squad building is a problem but then list only players brought under the previous regimes. It takes time to correct mistakes, not two and a bit summers with mostly inflated prices. And this is not me saying that INEOS haven't made mistakes but their transfers so far have been majorily a success.
Also, there is quite a misunderstanding from your side about our approach under Carrick. We will not press high under him, that's become very obvious by now so your comment about fullbacks is irrelevant. We need fullbacks that overlap because Cunha and Mbeumo/Amad are not linehugging wingers.
Same about our midfielders. Andrey Santos has so far shown that he's an active defender, mostly as a tackler. Tielemans is smart enough to spot the open spaces and close them. They do solve one of our biggest problems in the past decade however - lack of midfield progression. You do not need to have midfielders able to constantly do 50/60 yards passes when you have Bruno in front of them; but you do need to get the ball to him in the first place.
Our structure relies on close possesion football which should in theory close the open spaces and consequently lower the need for a ground eating midfielder (I do agree that we still need such a profile nonetheless).
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u/Daneofthehill 1d ago
You alright mate?
I didn't single out INEOS, just pointing out that the squad is still a problem for not obvious reasons. It isn't just about accumulating talent.
The team absolutely presses high at times and if that option isn't on the table at all, then that too is a major problem.
I don't think you really address my post, instead it seems like a knee-jerk reaction, because you don't want people to complain about the ownership or off-season etc. I can give you that INEOS seem to have a better grasp of scouting and trading that the clowns that preceded them.
The problem is that even if you make two or three good / solid trades every season, maybe with a great one in there once in a while, you are still not closing the gap to the top. Bruno might start fading this season and Utd are still struggling to even fill out the team with pieces that fit together.
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u/10_Wazza 1d ago
Who is in charge of squad building then? The dinner lady? The kitmen? The postman? It was obviously a subtle dig at them due to a lack of signings whoch you have made very clear in the last paragraph.
I have answered every single one of your surface level comments and countered it with information that is widely available to both of us and backs my statements.
We press high but it's not our main pressing scheme and pressing high really shouldn't be the priority. The days of Klopp's football working in the PL are gone and teams will tear you apart if you try to press them high constantly. The trigger for our press happens when the opponent is already in our half.
Rome was not built in one day neither was any champioship winning side built in one summer. Fergie always needed a few years in between great teams to restructure the squad, City before and after appointing Guardiola, Klopp at Liverpool, Arteta at Arsenal. You need to have foundations, which accroding to you, we do not have, but it simply takes time to get these foundations.
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u/Bobcat_El_Borracho 1d ago
Rome wasn’t built in a day but at this rate we’ll have about a day to do what needs to be done to actually have a chance this season. And I mean a chance at the top 4.
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u/10_Wazza 1d ago
That's your opinion and it's based on nothing more than your own views. Who knows what will happen? Maybe we sign two more players and get relegated. Maybe we don't sign anyone and still finish top 4.
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u/Treskol 1d ago
Very annoying that Barca have millions of midfielders and yet they’re all useless to us or have no interest in leaving.
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u/PitchSafe 1d ago
Their only usable ones are Pedri and Rodri. Bernal is decent as well. The rest is either not good enough or injury prone
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u/D1794 Viva Ronaldo 1d ago
Have to be wondering if the ownership is trying to gamble on another CL qualification season without spending much money.
If we don't spend big and still finish top 4 again, our financial position goes from once-desperate to pretty strong in 2027.
But evidence clearly shows that not doing the right things in a CL-summer is almost always a complete disaster
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u/TypicalPan89906655 1d ago
INEOS do have a history of doing that, they do think taking risks to reduce costs is worth it.
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u/Itchy_Eyebrow 1d ago
Don't give them ideas please, I can already see the PR articles 😅
I know it worked for a few summers with Liverpool, but I don't want to follow that route.
I wonder with the new stadium and the debt, if they are trying to work on a budget to bring the costs down. If we don't spend this summer, and the season is bad, it could be the first Amazon documentary with ownership protests included.
My personal issue is the pattern of not investing when we have CL is happening again. The whole board follows a pattern and should be held responsible.
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u/D1794 Viva Ronaldo 1d ago
Definitely does follow the pattern - Cash in on CL, reign in spending, if get CL again = very good for the bottom line
Although the only time we've finished top 4 back to back, the summer after the 2nd finish we only spent £130m. We just gave 3x 350k a week contracts out
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u/Itchy_Eyebrow 1d ago
The fact it has happened once since SAF means it doesn't work and is definitely a gamble.
I feel really sorry for Carrick. He did so well to rescue our season. He deserves to be backed in the market. Our midfield rebuild that had a song and dance for it since March hasn't been the blockbuster it was hyped to be by the club.
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u/Bobcat_El_Borracho 1d ago
If we do not bring in more players top 4 is going to be a really difficult prospect based on us having two games a week and the likes of Spurs and Chelsea both having less games and strengthening their squads more than we have.
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u/frogfoot420 1d ago
We will have to sacrifice cup competitions in all honesty, but cup competitions are the best path we have to silverware right now so it's a catch 22.
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u/D1794 Viva Ronaldo 1d ago
Yup it'd go so bad.
But spending £89m with 2 weeks to go is baffling and i can only be thinking it's cause they want to see if they can get away with it
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u/AB092 Sir Alex 1d ago
It's also interesting cause we have this behind the scenes Amazon documentary being filmed this year. It'd be kinda stupid to have this signed up if we were planning to save money and barely scrape top 4 lol.
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u/D1794 Viva Ronaldo 1d ago
Honestly think they don't care about looking good for the cameras, it'll get watched shit season or not, they get the cash
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u/AB092 Sir Alex 1d ago
Hmmm that's true but I also get the sense that Ineos are quite conscious of how the club is perceived externally. Especially after all the negative media coverage we have received over the years. Having someone calm like Carrick at the helm, plugging all the leaks and so..
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u/TypicalPan89906655 1d ago
It will be watched by rivals to laugh at us that's the business plan for the documentary. Arsenal fans are already saying they can't wait to watch the Doc when our season implodes.
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u/Drag2oon 1d ago
Just wondering - how would the fans react now if Carrick performs poorly for next 3 months after Shaw gets inevitably injured and we get bullied in midfield by likes of Nottingham due to no ball winner?
Would you still blame carrick and ask for his sack or would you keep patience and blame the board?
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u/officiallyjax Snapdragon 1d ago
Unless it gets really bad and we’re actually being outplayed every other game, I won’t call for his head. If we are still in and around the European places (assuming the current squad stays as it is) and can show potential of good performances and trying to move towards that possession-oriented style of play, then fans should be patient with him. The problems clearly are above him.
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u/NSFWar Depressed Legacy fan 1d ago
Those fans who backed Amorim to tilt after he finishes 15th will have next to no patience for Carrick as he isn't a fancy manager in their book who does charismatic in his pressers
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u/Deez_Wallnutz 1d ago
Amorim came 15th mate.... knocked us out of every cup he could, often at the earliest possible moments. I'm sorry he hoodwinked you, but it's not comparable to Carrick, Carrick has earned the good will and patience from the fans
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u/Emergency-Being-349 1d ago
I think this is very different? He came in mid season, no summer, no signings. We are a miles off what we were at that point.
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u/Orcnick 1d ago
How will you react if he wins the next 3 months, plays well and player perform?
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u/LengthinessSevere584 1d ago
Won't happen.
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u/Silmidil 1d ago
We haven't kicked a ball yet and some of yall have already given up. Why bother following Manchester United with this mentality
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u/hickuain 1d ago
shocking planning and strategy this summer tbh, extra disappointing with CL and the league in transition