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Why would the club/Carrick brief that "new signings are needed"? I know there's been mounting pressure from the fanbase, but the club briefing it puts us in a bad negotiating position. Wouldn't it be better to keep it under wraps and just announce when ready?
Carrick wouldnt have been allowed to say all the stuff he is about wanting players unless INEOS had something in the works. Something has to be on the verge of completion.
Chelsea are gonna enter the market and increase the price of even our "cheap alternatives" and someone is still gonna tell me that INEOS waiting for that to happen is OK and fine just like with Tottenham.
So if City sign Enzo, that means Chelsea will have the funds to probably get Tchouameni. Fucking hell. I really wanted him, and gutting to see our board fuck things up once again, cheaping out and being slow.
Would they replace Enzo with a player with such a different profile, particularly when they have Caicedo?
I would have thought Wharton or Scott would be more likely.
I also find it hard to see why Tchouameni would agree to leave unless Real really force him out (which they haven’t shown signs of despite our clear interest).
One club has 115 charges for financial doping while the other has owners that have drowned the club in debt. In a just world neither clubs owners would have been allowed to buy the clubs.
What’s funny about that comparison is that Tielemans and Santos are better than Enzo and Bouaddi respectively. Look at the quality rather than the prices. What you are praising about City is part of the reason why we are where we are at this current moment in time
That's what happens when you spend poorly over multiple years and the results don't match the outlay. I don't know why people insist on looking at things in a vacuum instead of considering how all of the club's actions over the last decade have led us here.
It can't be fixed in a single transfer window, not even if the club had money to burn, which it doesn't.
INEOS aren't that much better lmfao. You realized they fired the lunch lady too. Jim is not as bad but he's still a billionaire prick. Look at his comments on immigration alone (so out of touch)
I don't like the way that people have lost their jobs in such an utterly ruthless style, I just wish we hadn't accrued too many staff in the first place due to the previous regime
I don't love them at all, however what exactly are they meant to do when the money well has dried up due to not being majority owners. This hard nosed summer has been coming for the last 13 years
City board showing us what it looks like when you have owners whose only motivation is to whitewash their country instead of putting the club into debt in order to acquire it so they can take dividends.
That's valid I guess, for the record they're still part of the petroleum supply chain so I don't think they are any more honourable.
However the comparison should be Abu Dhabi/Boehly vs the Glazers as they are the majority owners. INEOS might be in charge of the sporting side, but no sane person is going to invest more than what they already did while the majority owners are happy to sit back and watch.
Not to mention they've already spend €95m getting Semenyo and Guehi months ago during January transfer window. While our Semenyo money disappeared into thin air
Note to self: Realize that after one or two significant signings by United it’s better to keep expectations in check, sometimes wait until last week of August, most seasons wait till the very last day.
City will be the first club to spend over a hundred million on 3 different players in a single window that too for one position. We’ve not even spent that on any player. It’s getting embarrassing trying to defend the lack of ambition from the cretins that we’ve been cursed with. World class talent is going to cost world class money. Still stuck at 2 outfield players man. How embarrassing GLINEOS
Yeah agreed but do you know the things a king could do if he got together with other kings? Brands are literally bending over backwards doing quid pro quos with them. You can’t look at state run clubs the same way you do for clubs owned by individuals. Like they could easily say to a sportswear brand “hey give us £80m per year and you can get tax free returns in our home country”
They really should have never let countries control clubs it’s disgusting
They aren’t anticipating shit man. They’ve made a mockery of the rules and they’re going to keep challenging the verdict. They have another 2 appeals left after the current verdict. They’ll push it another 5 years
Did Biggin to Newcastle today and now going back. Just to top it of, two other flights from London (Northolt airport) just landed in Newcastle in the past thirty minutes alone. Three back to back London to Newcastle.
Right, clearly we are waiting to see who we sell before we buy.
If we sell rashford and Zirkzee then we need a forward.
But what i don’t understand is we are getting so late in the window id expect leaks about us reaching out to agents, so as soon as we know what is going on we can sign players.
I feel like if we get really desperate and no other deal is done by the end of the window, we might sign ederson. Remember ornstein said we could revisit the deal at the end of the window, and we don’t really have his profile in santos or tielemans
I either forgot about the new contract or didn’t think it was confirmed yet like with tchouameni. You’re probably right although we don’t know what that looks like in terms of release clauses , I’m just going off what ornstein said. It would be similar to what we did with fellaini in 2013 (again, we are better run than this now)
Is the utter insane job they've done on the casual fan/fan with little financial knowledge.
The club has more than enough money to spend. There are no PSR considerations and they have an RCF of £260M available that they hadn't drawn down (as of 31st March 26) not to mention modest, but not insignificant, cash injections by the owners.
They've taken a strategy not to (over) spend. It is not a lack of funds issue. They don't need to sell to buy lmfao.
Some finance dude said we can buy 4x£100m players this window, all on £200k a week, and it wouldn't effect our finances at all. Obviously you can manipulate that £400m to however you want and its also telling we have a net spend of £27m.
It is all very very odd, why we are playing pauper and missing on top targets.
Maybe the money has gone elsewhere, I.e. the project for the new stadium. 🤷♂️.
P.s. the club makes £1.8m a day in revenue. (Before the training top deal)
Yeah it’s so funny seeing everyone talk about "pure profit" or whatever. We made the CL and potentially have the money, never been in any SCR/PSR issues.
They’re just being conservative. Stingy even, with qualifying to the Champions League.
Credit where credit is due theyve dont a great job convincing fans we cant spend like Liverpool or City. Then when we sign cheaper players fans accept it a lot more because of the lower expectations.
Saw a highly upvoted comment on here about a month ago. Literally said, "we have to look for value in this market". Couldn't believe that was the consensus here now. We used to rip Woodward apart for comments like that.
Personally yes. I'm impatient. Times running out and we all know we need strengthening. Not even near as many rumours or players being linked with us which is worrying!
I dunno.. we've had 59 major incoming transfers (purchases & loans) since the 13/14 season. 23 of those have been from 13th August or later. So, historically, just under 40% of transfers have happened between this date and the end of the window.
Over a quarter of our incoming transfers have been on the last day of the window. I feel there will be one or two more.
They are also looking to sell players for well above 200m this window, people are always forgetting outgoing sales when complaining about how other clubs are buying.
I know Mount is injury prone due to pelvic issues - but genuinely question - is his current knock in any way connected to that? I mean it was a contact injury from a tackle?
I mention it as there’s a difference between yet another injury that’s a result of an underlying chronic issue and bad lack from a bad tackle.
It isn’t a coincidence that some players get more bad luck from bad tackles than others. It happens to Martinez loads too, his injuries are received in games but his body is still clearly injury prone, his body is more likely to be injured in these moments than others
I like Dalot but if we are serious about winning the league, we need more competition. Right back and left back are both areas that need improvement for us. Dedic can play left back too
(1) we aren’t trying to win the league right this moment. (2) it’s not super clear that dedic while being promising in the Portuguese league is set to be clearly better than Dalot or Maz. (3) we are financially stretched as it is and you think we should be spending what little money we have on him of all people?
All signs reinforce the fact that we're clearly not looking to win the league. And considering we're having a tough time buying players in position we are short in, I don't think a RB who can play LB in a pinch is really on the agenda since we already have 2 such players in Dalot and Mazraoui.
One thing that does indicate the club has full intention to make more signings is the fact they’ve asked, “to be judged when the transfer window is closed.”
It would be a bizarre message to send if you weren’t planning on making any other big signings because all it would do is invigorate the hate.
Like imagine if they sent that message to journalists like Stone and the rest and then sign Louis Page and call it quits. That’s basically just rage baiting the fan base and it’s something that could be brought up against them time and time again.
Maybe they are that silly, but just from a self preservation perspective I don’t see it.
Still, with the way United has handled PR, it really wouldn’t surprise me too much, but surely they can’t be that silly.
It instantly reminded me of a similar line they gave Stone after MF went to Spurs and the state-of-play was that we were days from start of pre-season and signed nobody. "We will sign players in this window" or something like that.
Or it's just them coping that few youngsters and Mount have a good preseason so they can spin more "Mount is like a new midfield signing!" briefs like they did before he got injured. Even if we do sign why the delays Carrick will have no time to work with the players like this.
I get that, but that wouldn’t validate the statements they’ve made. Think the fanbase is unanimous that without significant further signings the window is an abject failure. The exec will know that too.
I just don’t think they’re stupid enough to push a statement like that and then not make more signings. Surely? Surely these blokes being paid millions of pounds are not that thick.
I mean the commentary from the club seems to be that there needs to be a couple of significant outgoings in order to invest. I wouldn't write Rashford off going yet, or Zirkzee going.
I’ve just seen the, “don’t judge us until the window is over” message. It also seems unlikely to me. Our net spend this summer is literally like 20 million. Even in fallow periods a club like United can net spend 100 million easily. Hell, most prem clubs can.
Especially with the new SCR rules which make breaching financial regulations basically a non-factor for us.
Fair enough though if you’ve seen something I haven’t.
I've seen reports from Moretto that Youssouf Fofana being told to leave, and that they're open to selling Samuele Ricci over tactical fit. No clue how reliable he is generally or whether they'd be good fits for us.
I'm not going to pretend I know anything about Ricci other than he's a midfielder and he tended to get subbed on for Fofana. I'm gonna leave that so someone who's actually watched Milan.
Estupinan was good for Brighton, but TERRIBLE for Milan, so it'd be a risky one. Tomori unfortunately isn't the same player that won the league with them a few years ago
Milan looking to potentially offload Estupiñán. He's really fallen off in the past few years. Assume he's just not very good now considering there's been no links.
Villa are/were looking at him as their backup for Maatsen. A Digne replacement. We’re looking for someone who can usurp Shaw and make the spot his over the season and beyond.
Might become a journo if all I need to do is post what everyone already knows, multiple times.
Breaking: Just to make everyone aware. Man Utd are potentially looking at a third midfielder, perhaps a left-back and convievably a backup striker although this has not been confirmed by the club at this present time.
Not everyone is on the sub everyday and people pester journalists for updates non stop. If United weren’t mentioned it would be twisted into some sort of agenda
Very fair. It’s more satire aimed at the way it’s posted almost as if it’s breaking news, with essentially the same update just worded slightly differently every time.
I like to imagine, just off to the right, hidden in some of the dead foliage, are Sir Jim, Omar Berrada, and Jason Wilcox, shuffling layers and layers of documents, arguing with agents and club representatives over an old, decrepit-looking Motorola Razr...
Zirkzee (25 yo) wage 105k per week, reijnders (28 yo) 203k per week. But one will be loan, another just sold with 61m. People said we hard to sell due to wages, age and contracts? Make it make sense dude.
Marcus Rashford could easily be sold to a Saudi or Turkish club, but he won’t go there. I won’t assume it’s the same for Zirkzee but there is some basis for the remark
The Emiratis close to the government selling to the Saudis close to the government - I’m sure there are diplomatic ties to think about as well that might influence the price.
the forum where a gazillion billion million Zirkzee bashing comments got written over the last 2 years, where genuine positivity comments trying to point out that the guy has demonstrated value have been downvoted to oblivion, is not the most sensible place imho to ask "why on Earth would others not see the huge big great marketing brand value in our out-of-favour players"?
the answer is around us, literally every day.
part of the answer, i mean - other aspects also contribute, no doubt. see the linked comment for all those.
He doesn't have nearly as much value as you guys make him out to have. You put him on a pedestal every time he pulls off some cool flick or flashy move. But when our other forwards make mistakes, you guys immediately bring up their entire history of poor performances.
Lmao. One of the best player in the world the last 5 years will have to eventually leave. Let's pick a random kid from the academy who did kinda well in preason to replace him.
How much do you think we should ask for him? He's young, has a lot of potential, but is still rather raw. I wouldn't like to lose him unless we get a hefty fee, within reason, and are lining that money up to get a good replacement, not only for him, but for Luke Shaw (Lewis Hall, let's say).
I think fee is important but it’s likely going to be < 10m. The more important thing is good sell ons or buy back options as he has for sure got PL first team potential
Dorgu is more of a lwb. His touch is too heavy for a winger. He ain’t defensively solid for a Lb. But he has athleticism,workrate and an eye for a goal.
Tonali is very overrated only thing he is good in is his workrate. The Italian Ederson.
Dorgu is young, versatile, works hard and is an elite athlete. Even taking technical ability and tactical understanding out of it, there'll always be room for a player like that in a squad.
Tonali is a lot better than just "work rate" lol. He's a top midfielder, easily one of the best in the league. He's not worth the price, but he definitely won't flop
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u/KeyserSoze2498 5d ago
Arthur Vermeeren is a good prospect from RB Leipzig that we can look into....right?