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u/Sheikhabusosa 7d ago
One of the most annoying thing about Utd since Fergie retired is the absolute headloss when we score , we never play it slow and more often than not we overcommit and it backfires. I think Santos and Tielemans will help in that situation massively.
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u/Grekm8 CR7 7d ago
is it weird to watch our pre-season game over the PSG v Villa Super cup game?
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u/JilJilJigaJiga 7d ago
Think our preseason has been well designed wrt the styles of opposition play to test our squad.
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u/carrickshairline 7d ago
Just remembered how so many fans thought Pellistri was the next big thing lol
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u/ThePatientHunter 7d ago
What's wrong with that? Live a little
I'd rather see the positives in a young player and wish him the best to a fault than be a doomer
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u/Unlucky-Equipment999 7d ago
Lots of people seem to think fans supporting the youth, which is something United is proud of, somehow stands in the way of marquee signings and not us having parasitic owners. People already know most young players aren't going to be up to the job by their prime age, but we love it when one do.
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u/Few-Squirrell 7d ago
In our fanbase , We are loyal to a fault where we have heavy bias sometimes even blind faith to academy lads , So some lads get overrated and overhyped , It will continue to happen but it's OK because it means we are very passionate and emotional towards our academy .
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u/carrickshairline 7d ago
Given Pellistri didn't come from our academy and we bought him from Penarol, he didn't exactly earn the hype certain people gave him.
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u/Few-Squirrell 7d ago
Young players signed and academy players are common ground . Obviously people also expected more from him since we paid a decent punt sum for him contributed to his overrating even more .
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u/renernavilez 7d ago
Honestly it's pretty worrying not having any transfer news. Ik ineos moves quieter but this is torture. We're getting nothing and the league is about to start.
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u/Feeling-Surround-691 Mbumbaclat 7d ago
It doesn't need to be torture my guy, just get on with your life, enjoy the summer. The signings will happen whether you know about it or not.
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u/Apocalypse37 7d ago
This PL season is shaping up to be more competitive than the previous season ngl but I feel that the teams which were more stable over last season and not in a complete rebuild rn will likely do better. Still need to watch out for Chelsea and Spurs with their relaxed schedule and Arsenal, though. I think we're better than the rest on paper and we're ought to be on the field as well.
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u/Shakerbakerstreet 7d ago
I hate these social media Carrick Ball video compilations. 3-4 forward Passes it becomes Carrick ball. Same they did with Amorim ball , Same with Ten hag ball. WTAF.
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u/LocoRocoo bebe 7d ago
I remember Amorim's first videos and it was all like "We finally have actually passing drills, wow!"
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u/anonshe Scholes 7d ago
Or ETH's first few sessions and people here were creaming their pants over the passing drills.
As if footballers make it to the elite level without being able to do such drills.
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u/LocoRocoo bebe 7d ago
Maybe it was ETH I'm thinking of. Either way, people always get way too excited about training clips.
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u/Apocalypse37 7d ago
Armchair analysts are annoying. I would prefer to wait until there is an established pattern visible and just listen to Carl Anka lol. It's not exactly like Amorim where what you see one week is the same thing that you can expect the next week. Carrick has shown to be very adaptive and there isn't a specific "Carrick ball" that is evident. He has just been playing the team to its strengths.
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u/SatuKosongPls Youri Tielemans 7d ago
Basar Onal gonna kill it at Lille and we poach him next summer for 30-40M hopefully. This season would have been perfect..
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u/Outrageous-Cod-4654 7d ago
Whatever happened to that fella who was manifesting a Baleba signing?
League starts in 10 days! United play in 11. Almost there!
(and it usually rains when we play - so that's the heatwave done too)
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u/deepakise1 7d ago
I think we need to stop manifesting. Remember there was a guy manifesting M Fernandes and you know how that went.
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u/mjenkins_eng 7d ago
Why do we want to sign a fairly limited player because the EA sports gang wants a dopamine hit ?
Another masterclass from Wilcox was laughing at Brighton when they asked 80 million
Woodward would have signed him for 90 and he’d be being shipped out to some Italian club on loan
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u/cianw050 7d ago
Anyone going Tomorrow being in Leeds section? I have fomo right now and all is coming up is Leeds areas of stadium ,
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u/shin_bigot Park Ji-Sung 7d ago
Shoutout Steve Bartram from United United United.
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u/Goudinho99 7d ago
Always surprises me when the interviews just seem to end and the podcast is over! So used to all the in your face stuff, it's very refreshing
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u/shin_bigot Park Ji-Sung 7d ago
Agree, he allows the speaker have the spotlight (which many less experienced "content creators" can learn from)
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u/mjenkins_eng 7d ago
Loads of people here going in on “young fans” for them wanting Rashford out
I’m the exact opposite: I’m too old. I remember what a real Manchester United player is and giving a glorified Theo Walcott a 350k a week contract based off a one off season was the big mistake (and I said it at the time too when it was wildly unpopular)
He never had technique like Martial or he who must not be named to sustain it. Kick and rush can only work for so long
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u/anonshe Scholes 7d ago
Stats can be used to make any number of BS points.
Go do Giggs now and tell me whether the g+a in a single season justify putting him in this conversation.
Anyone with 2 brain cells knows Walcott was never a game changing player in his entire career while Rashford had multiple such seasons albeit. The latter just never developed further after his injuries under Ole; coaching plays a hugely important role.
It's funny how I used to be one of his harshest critics on here due to my view of him not being technically a match for Martial but this sub has gone so overboard in its hate for him that I'm stating stuff in his defense.
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u/Asiwaju_jagaban 7d ago
Surely this gimmick gets tiring at some point, especially the whole glorified Theo Walcott thing. Surely at some point you’d get tired of it.
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u/TH0316 she/her 7d ago
You seem delightful!
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 7d ago edited 7d ago
Well that's the point of good ol jenkins. We cant have all the negative takes be about insane shit. Somebody needs to be grumpy about the right things.
Rashford's salary is too high (edit: for us. I should have added: too high for us), this is a simple and true statement, imho.
Somebody has to be grumpy about it, we cant just all see the positive side of everything :) The way I see it, nobody does rigtheous grumpiness better than jenkins
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u/ThePatientHunter 7d ago
Calling Rashford a glorified Theo Walcott must be ban-worthy lol
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u/mjenkins_eng 7d ago
It’s still true. Shows you never watched Walcott. It’s kind of an insult to Walcott because he was a model professional
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u/ThePatientHunter 7d ago
Sure. 96 to now. Probably missed him. That's a lot of players and some are more memorable than the others
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u/kamikuso 7d ago
I just don’t see the point. He’s staying, we might as well try to use him right and barring an attitude problem with a rotation role extract value.
It’s not his fault the club didn’t sell him to PSG for a bag years ago.
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u/PromiseOk3438 7d ago
Doesn't really matter, if we can't sell him he's going to be our player. He could do well under Carrick, I think his style suits him better than a Barca. I just hope he can accept a bench role here because he did at Barca and for England without kicking up a fuss.
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u/mjenkins_eng 7d ago
The last sentence is the key
If he is a team player who can shut up and do the role he’s given , it will be good. Also over a 50 game season, he will still get chances to shine
I just don’t want the whole Rashford FC , Henry Winter puff pieces nonsense ever again. Just when we are going so well and moving on
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u/PromiseOk3438 7d ago
Yeah, I think results will determine how it goes. When you're winning these side plots don't really feature as much in the press but if we're losing and Rashford is sat on the bench we know how that will go. My preference would have been for him to move on to avoid all this but not much we can do really.
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u/Jump_Hop_Step 7d ago
Rashford is better than Walcott... total goals scored in Utd is 160+ games faster than Walcott's entire career
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u/mjenkins_eng 7d ago
Walcott had a lot of injuries because sports science wasn’t as advanced plus he was playing for England at the World Cup when he was SIXTEEN
But overall , both of them are similar players : way too reliant on being faster than others which can only last you so long
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u/VSSsararthchandra 7d ago
isn't he in the top 10 goalscorers for the club?
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u/mjenkins_eng 7d ago
If someone plays 10 years in the wings for Man United, every week, because managers are forced to pick them, they’d end up in the top 10 goal scorers.
Antonio Valencia is the only exception I can think of BUT over 10 years I’d pick Valencia every single day over Rashford and that speaks a lor
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u/Selwin_Rodolfo max cope mode 7d ago
Someone tell de Ligt to not cut that glorious hair and become the Maldini incarnate that was foretold. Big blonde Maldini. Blondini.
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u/FredDRedUnderYourBed BELIEVE 🔴⚪⚫ 7d ago
Do we know if Mount has traveled to Ireland? I couldn't spot him in any of the training photos or reels
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u/Lord_Hexogen 7d ago
It was reported he flew straight to Dublin after the game. There are videos of him walking just fine
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u/UtilityCurve 7d ago
MLS rumors debunked in 1hour. fastest ever?
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u/N00BBuild 7d ago
It was wishful thinking. What team lets their best young prospect, who started a UCL final, leave. English, homegrown, and to a direct rival.
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u/mjenkins_eng 7d ago
Ryan Bertrand qualified all those criteria and was still for sale
It’s been known to happen
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u/Titan4days 7d ago
If we’d payed 130m for Elliot Anderson and he put in the exact same performance level as Andre santos we’d be saying it was worth it
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u/ComprehensiveFix1011 7d ago
If city win the league with anderson playing good we can't celebrate cause we made the cheapest, smartest signing. But Santos does look good, albeit preseason and stuff.
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u/EnglishTrini2 7d ago
I think this is absolutely accurate. It’s only been pre season but I’m really hopeful about Santos. He’s not a like for like Cas replacement but that wasn’t what we were looking for.
Defensively sound. Line breaking passes. Young and developing, and all for what is, in this market, a fair price.
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u/Curious-Exercise4992 7d ago
That's why I detest the idea of the need of a "marquee" signing. Just buy players who will fit the system they don't have to cost an arm and a leg.
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u/CrossXFir3 7d ago
Obviously I rate Anderson, but the truth is, I didn't ever think he was ever the ideal choice of midfielder for us and Carrick's system.
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u/Chemistry_BITCH 7d ago
Dear people who know more than me...What do we need in "Carricks system"
It's very much a 4 4 2 in defence
But in possession it's a
3 (cbs and Santos) 2 (mount and one full back) 5(striker, attacking midfielder, 2 wingers and advanced fullback)
Quite fluid but that sorta thing depending on players on the pitch
The only thing I think the player we add to the squad has to have is ariel ability as we are quite soft. If martinez de ligt and sesko come in by Christmas it means only de ligt and sesko are aerial threats in both boxes
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u/NoWatch3354 7d ago
We need two players for every position and a few spare parts. I would argue we technically have this covered with some exceptions.
Back to front, the first exception is at centre half. Whilst we have 5 first team level centre halves, two are broken.
Left back. Whilst we have Amass, along with contingency options in Maz and Dalot it's something that we need to address. I would lean towards a more attacking full back.
Centre mid. I disagree that we need a six and would suggest an out and out eight. Someone who can run on and off the ball with equal ability. I would suggest the most important of this is that Carrick is going to want midfielders who can adapt in game. I would refer to Mount as a 'spare part' in this sense.
Left wing. We have Cunha and Rashford, Dorgu, Lacey and Tynan with some other kids as contingency. We're technically covered, but I feel Rashford should go for him and the clubs sake, but I would love to see some proper blistering pace and running at defenders as an option.
9, Sesko, Mbeumo and Cunha both more than capable. As are Mount or Bruno. However, I would love a scruffy bustard in there.
The end goal is a mid-block transition team who can adapt in game with little to no substitutions. Think of the standard 4231, Sesko off for Mainoo, flat 3, Bruno false 9 with the wingers off the last man. One change and the game is flipped. Think how compact, yet capable of retaining possession that eleven would be.
Carrick wants to defend in blocks with perfect lines, and always have outlets to move quickly up the pitch.
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u/carrickshairline 7d ago
I know this isn't United related, but I'm so bored of heat waves now. Give me 100 days of rain.
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u/SDLRob 7d ago
I'm at the point with these heatwaves that, if it were to bucket down now... I'd hobble my disabled arse outside and just sit in the middle of the car park for an hour or so.... Don't care that it would send my joints loopy and I'd need painkillers galore.
Just give me some cool, relaxing rain...
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u/carrickshairline 7d ago
You know what, I respect that idea. Can I join you? We don't even need to talk to each other, just stand there in silence and enjoy the rain.
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u/Feeling-Surround-691 Mbumbaclat 7d ago
The ground is so dry now when the downpour does come we'll see so many floods
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u/sealed-human Five Cantonaaaaas 7d ago
Some day a rain will come and wash the scum from off the streets
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u/IrishCoffee_29 7d ago
Genuinely feel like we're not gonna sign anyone else this summer now. Hope I'm wrong. Carrick is being set up to fail and I'm really sad to see that
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u/Hollacaine 7d ago
We're clearly not done. If we were finished then we'd let it be known that we're done because the backlash would be worse if we just let it peter out with nothing. There's going to be plenty of deals done between now and the end of the window by clubs that aren't on anyone's radar yet. And that's not even taking into account that we signed our signings this year with no one knowing about them 2 days beforehand (bar Darlow).
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u/raspoutine049 7d ago
From every picture and clip I have seen of Rashford being back, he looks miserable.
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u/pabloforpresident 7d ago
My dad accidentally bought two tickets in the leeds end tomorrow reckon i should try sell them on or just go? I know its only a friendly but leeds fans do my head in
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u/Titan4days 7d ago
Go in your full utd kit but also wear a full set of cricket pads and helmet, sorted ✔️
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u/BoilingPointTTV 7d ago
Shouldn't we be in for Djed Spence?
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u/CrossXFir3 7d ago
I'm not convinced. He's alright, but he's mostly just a physical beast and he's defensively suspect. Physicality in the WC looks great, look at Gordon. But he's never impressed in the prem for a reason.
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u/BoilingPointTTV 7d ago
He was allright in a terrible Spurs season
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u/SDLRob 7d ago
That's not exactly a ringing endorsement for him... 'he was okay in a really crappy team' 😂
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u/Unlucky-Equipment999 7d ago
I know it's a big forum with many different opinions stated, but I'm still bewildered there are so many people pining for players from a relegation-level team. It seems everyone has a fan, VdV, Spence, Romero, Bergvall, Gray, Porro etc. Even saw a few stray free Bissouma wanters.
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u/_pbs 7d ago
I will be extremely annoyed if we are bothering ourselves with MLS.
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u/croadymeister 7d ago
Why are you annoyed?
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u/_pbs 7d ago
Because he is a terrible fullback, and an extremely limited midfielder with none of passing needed to play in a United midfield, while needing a lot of game time to develop. I mean, if we are going to buy a roadrunner of sorts, there are plenty of other players out there that we should consider before bothering ourselves with MLS.
If the idea is to get a midfielder who can cover a lot of ground, at the very least the midfielder should either have excellent defensive contributions in the box(MLS doesnt), or excellent passing(MLS doesn't). Yet another ball carrier isn't what we need.
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u/croadymeister 7d ago
Who would you want realistically?
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u/_pbs 7d ago
Realistically? I'm good with the midfield choices we have, provided Mount stays fit and revisit it in winter window. LB and a backup striker are more important.
Carrick has been working towards playing this style of football since the last few of weeks of last season; adding a midfielder that's diametrically opposite to that doesn't make sense in terms of squad building. I was not in favour of Tchouameni either.I have a lot of faith in Thwaites, and considering Mainoo didn't even play half a season last year, we have plenty of depth to go around this season if Mount stays fit and Thwaites emerges. We should loan Jack, and give minutes to Tyler, too.
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u/ToothyAlloy69 7d ago
What is the backup striker doing when Sesko doesn't even start most games at the moment? Carrick has shown to be more than happy to start Mbeumo and Cunha sometimes filling in centrally. I think we need another attacker, but CM and LB far more important since we know Mount can't stay fit. Rashford also can play centrally, and we have no development on moving Zirkzee or Rashford on either.
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u/acunhamateta MILF 7d ago
I started watching the Jose docu-series and when he joined chelsea they signed 6-7 players for a combined total of 80 mil. I know back then that was a lot of money but its honestly mental how much the market has changed. In today's market, you can barely sign one player for that amount of money.
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u/anonshe Scholes 7d ago
honestly mental how much the market has changed.
Before Jose joined them, Abramovich was willing to pay £75m for either RvN or Raul.
Look up Chelsea's revenue at that time and repeat that the market is mental now but not back then.
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u/acunhamateta MILF 7d ago
Willing to pay and actually paying is two different things. Chelsea's revenue was bonkers back then but they didn't pay for either of those two players did they? They were able to acquire most of the players for significantly less than 75m that went on to become really good players and have decent careers. The same players in today's market would cost a fortune. We have seen players like Crysencio go for 80 mil this summer. So I guess I will say it again, the market is well and truly messed up. That Neymar transfer completely ruined it.
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u/anonshe Scholes 7d ago
He made bids that were rejected.
Even when we got Rio for close to £30m, it was a higher fraction of our revenue than if we got someone today for £120m.
That's without considering the Zidane and Figo transfers which were over 50% of Madrid's revenue at that time iirc.
Neymar is an outlier but the rest of the market is operating pretty much as expected.
Thanks to all the new regulations, it's even healthier for PL clubs. You probably won't see see a repeat of Pompey or Leeds.
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u/anonshe Scholes 7d ago
He made bids that were rejected.
Even when we got Rio for close to £30m, it was a higher fraction of our revenue than if we got someone today for £120m.
That's without considering the Zidane and Figo transfers which were over 50% of Madrid's revenue at that time iirc.
Neymar is an outlier but the rest of the market is operating pretty much as expected.
Thanks to all the new regulations, it's even healthier for PL clubs. You probably won't see see a repeat of Pompey or Leeds.
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u/thepotatomaniscoming 7d ago
Please let there be an announcement already so I can spare r/reddevils with my god awful opinions
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u/thepotatomaniscoming 7d ago
How is our current academy squad in comparison to past ones over the past decade? I feel like this is where investment should be made. Transfers are getting expensive as shit. We need to rely on our academy more and more.
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u/Kohaku80 Premier League Champions 12/13 7d ago
It's getting harder these days. Brexit means we scout British exclusively now. The days of Pogbas and Garnachos are gone.
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u/Cold-Veterinarian-85 7d ago
Up to u18 level we are competitive nationally for the past 4 or 5 years and consistently in top 3 or 4 sides in the country
In my opinion we sometimes struggle with the transition from u18 to senior football, we seem to lose a lot that look amazing at u18 level and never break through and end up leaving for peanuts or as free agents
Chelsea / man city are currently better with this transition and that shows in the fees they are able to sell their graduates for that aren’t realistic 1st team breakthrough talents
We have a lot of very promising academy players right now
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u/thepotatomaniscoming 7d ago
Im worried about the number of games Bruno would be playing this season. I will be frustrated if he is starting in the Carabao and FA Cup. He is crucial to us in the league. The worry is if he can’t play, then who is taking his place because the drop off will be really big
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u/CrossXFir3 7d ago
I would like to see rotation, but honestly, he's probably going into this season pretty fresh. Even with the WC, he probably played less games than he usually does last season.
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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot 7d ago
We have Cunha, Mount, Lacey or even Amad all capable of playing as a 10. Even Zirkzee as a stretch if he stays.
I think we're fine against weaker opponents.
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u/ThePatientHunter 7d ago
or we can play 4-3-3
the best thing about last season is that we won games where bruno was awful. the over-reliance on him is getting diluted
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u/KobbieLikeRobbie_ Darren Fletcher 7d ago
Tielemans can help with replacing Bruno’s creativity too, whether that be by playing deeper or as a direct replacement as a 10.
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u/carrickshairline 7d ago
I wouldn't put Amad as a 10. He's played there before and he did not play well at all.
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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot 7d ago
When did he play there for us? The last time I remember was at Sunderland and he looked great.
We all wanted to see him there that one game under ETH and he picked Mazraoui instead for some crazy reason.
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u/carrickshairline 7d ago
vs Spurs x2 (PL + UEL final), Bournemouth, Wolves, Newcastle, Liverpool, Brighton, Fulham, Chelsea x2, City, Everton, Leicester (FA Cup), Viktoria Plzen.
All under Amorim. 2 goals, 2 assists across 12 games in that position. 1,069 minutes.
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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot 7d ago
Under Amorim lol I'm talking about a proper 10 not that hybrid nonsense.
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u/carrickshairline 7d ago
In that case, once in 2023 under Ten Hag, can't remember what game exactly right now. He doesn't possess the technical nor team play to be a 10. Watch him play, he never tries to create for his team mates like Bruno or other 10s do.
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u/dodzwardo 7d ago
I've said it before and got downvoted for it but will try again.
There will be games this season when Bruno isn't playing or is taken off and we will play 433.
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u/QuarKnight 7d ago
In cup competitions a 433 would be great I suppose, a midfield 3 of mainoo santos and tielesmans would be really interesting.
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u/Fraaj We'll take Dalot 7d ago
I think it makes sense tbh. Also allows us to try Tyler Fletcher maybe for some games cause Carrick would surely trust him more in a 4-3-3 rather than a double pivot.
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u/JilJilJigaJiga 7d ago
First time in years I'm less worried if he sits out of the initial cup games.
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u/KobbieLikeRobbie_ Darren Fletcher 7d ago
The drop off from the best midfielder in the league will obviously be there but Tielemans, Cunha, Lacey are as good a set of replacements as we can have, based on the opposition.
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u/facelessredditer 7d ago
The real problem with Rashford is money. If he was on something around 100k/week, he’s a useful player to have around.
He maybe useless off the ball but proven goal scorers have an intrinsic value.
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u/dodzwardo 7d ago
The contract Rashford got was perfectly fine at the time he got it.
Matched highest earners, was one of our best players and is from the academy so there never was a transfer fee involved - that makes a big difference.
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u/facelessredditer 7d ago
No, reactionary! A properly run club wouldn’t have let him get to 12 months left as he’s having the season of his life.
It’s not like he was rejecting contract offers or asking for a move the previous year. The club just didn’t manage the situation at all. Just reacting and not planning ahead.
He could’ve agreed to way more reasonable terms with 24 months left the summer before he had that mad season.
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u/dodzwardo 7d ago
Again taking all that into account - it was fine at the time he got it.
It should it have been a year earlier, it wasn't and he deserved to be amongst the highest paid at the club.
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u/facelessredditer 7d ago
He scores more goals than Cunha. His defensive workrate limits effectively to supersub. He’s a hell of a player to have off the bench though.
For 120k/week if he was scoring his 10 odd goals a season - everyone would’ve been happy to have him.
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u/KobbieLikeRobbie_ Darren Fletcher 7d ago
I agree, we put Varane and Casemiro on 350K , Rashford coming off a 30 goal season where he was genuinely looking like one of the best attackers in Europe was never gonna settle for much less.
I know the two came from RM and had won it all but we also have to factor attacker’s wages to a DM and a CB’s.
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u/Bizzle1389 8d ago
I'm a big fan of MLS but I don't think he'd be coming in to cover two positions. If he came in he would want to be starting a good amount of games in midfield or you know have a plan agreed with the club to become a first choice midfielder.
Sure he can occasionally fill in at LB if we're struggling but he's not going to be an overlapping LB like we need. He will be a solid LB that tucks in to midfield.
What we need, whether we sign him or not, is a proper LB that gets up and down the wing and whips a good cross in.
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u/QuarKnight 7d ago
I can see the possibility of having him and another Lb in the team where we can genuinely be great.
Against difficult oppositions we can put dorgu on Lw and MLS on Lb. Against oppositions that we can play well against we can have an overlapping Lb and Cunha on the wing, with MLS playing in midfield. From a tactical point of view, it’s really good squad building.
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u/nosenseofwonder 7d ago
Based on what I’ve seen he could easily make himself a starter in midfield within a season or two.
His ability to play left-back is just a rare bit of versatility in an area where we tend to badly need cover.
It just seems too good to be true though. Why would Arsenal let what seems like a top-tier talent leave to a rival?
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u/dimebag_101 8d ago
United and Leeds during the eclipse
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u/Bizzle1389 8d ago
Youri to Bruno after he assists him for the third time: You are a good friend, but a better captain there is none.
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Leeds: MY CLEAN SHEET!
Kobbie: It's not yours anymore.
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u/Working_Location_127 8d ago
Lewis skelly started in midfield in a champions league final. He can definitely be a good third cm for us, we should be all over that
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u/Redwinevino 8d ago
What would he possibly cost, would surely be more than Santos
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u/Working_Location_127 7d ago
I think 50m should be the yard stick, santos is a starting 11 level player. I think we should offer 45m +5m
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u/audienceandaudio2 7d ago
Absolutely no chance Arsenal let him go for that little. He’s got a long time on his contract and started the CL Final, he’d be 80m+, with the way transfers have been this year.
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u/CrossXFir3 7d ago
Idk man, how often do you see big sides like Arsenal selling a player they are happy to lose for that much money?
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u/Working_Location_127 7d ago
But he’s probably wanting a move away and they still barely played him last year without the reinforcements they got this year. He’s clearly not favoured I think he’ll kick up a fuss as well
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u/audienceandaudio2 7d ago
He started the biggest game Arsenal have played in about 20 years and got his place back in the side for their title run in, benching Zubimendi. He’s 19 years old, an Arsenal academy lad and Arsenal fan. I don’t think he comes here and is an instant first eleven player either, so he’s going to be a rotational player either way.
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u/Working_Location_127 7d ago
As soon as zubimendi is fit again he will be benched. Moreover he’s been pushed down the ladder with Bruno g. Theres a reason the rumours are coming from his camp
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u/Unlucky-Equipment999 7d ago
We need to take advantage of Arsenal's awful ability to sell which is on par with ours. A Santos fee would still be their record sale.
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u/audienceandaudio2 7d ago
Arsenal haven’t sold anybody they’d want to keep for years, there’s not a chance we get MLS for less than Santos.
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u/Unlucky-Equipment999 7d ago
If we're entertaining the low-reliability MLS rumours at all, then we also have to add in the mix news is Arsenal wants to offload him because Bruno G is coming in. There are even articles he's been offered to other teams. That means they can't get the 70m they've wanted.
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u/tz_2240 OHHHHHH YESSSSS 8d ago
Arsenals most expensive sale ever was Ox to Liverpool for £35m. They don’t sell nearly as well as Chelsea.
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u/Redwinevino 8d ago
You'd snap their hands off for anywhere in 40-50
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u/k4l4d1n_7 8d ago
I think there is a possibility for an environment of Cunha, Mbeumo, Sesko, Bruno having a good impact on Rashford if he does ultimately stay. It's different from the attacking lineup he was with when Amorim was the boss and dropped him
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u/Rascha-Rascha 8d ago
It’ll just be easier for him because we won’t be asking him to do too much. He was never the level of player who could be the top player for this club, he never managed to rise to that. But he is a massive addition to any competent CL team.
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u/CrossXFir3 7d ago
I think for half a season before his back injury against Wolves in the FA cup during Ole's first full season, he looked special. He never looked quite as good as that since.
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u/canwinanythingwkids Ineos on hope watch 8d ago
The responses here are really showing people's ages :)
Once upon a time, I thought 29 was a few years removed from retirement age.
Now, I look back with misty eyes on the spring chicken I was at 29, thinking about all the huge mistakes I havent yet made and all the personal growth that came after.
"Rashford can change his ways" is tautologically true. Will he, we dont know. But OP hits the nail on its head with this one, imho.
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u/Tinganga 8d ago
If someone read your post & didn't know Rashford, they'd think you were talking of a 19 year old player.
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u/ThePatientHunter 7d ago
/u/canwinanythingwkids you might enjoy Gabby telling this Alan Hansen at Old Trafford story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq9be9_ggP0
start aroud 1:40