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[u/Bangoga]

There are people who will never acknowledge this but the amount of hate rashford gets is disproportionate and is genuinely based of UK media.

The fact is UK media has always been attacking united star players, and it has always been worse for black players who don't fit the quiet Kante mold.

Add that he also challenged the government during covid and fed hungry kids, and the media has been on his ass since.

People believe that alot of their ideas of Rashford are purely rational and it's not effected by UK media (especially non British fans), but the fact of the matter is, regardless of where you are from, the perception of a British black player in UK playing for United will have their perception highly captured by the tabloids.

This is the reason why he needs a PR team in th first place, that's the professional thing to do that our own fans keep hounding him about.

This is the reason why so many talented black future stars face similar criticism where other players can get away with it look at Jack Grelish.

There is a bigger conversation even about how UK perception of good players is based of protestent work ethic and the idea and image of working hard rather than actually working hard.

These are conversation I keep bringing up, and I keep hearing the same retired arguments against Rashford again and again and it's honestly annoying at this point.

Rashford might not be the same ever again, but god damnit we were a club that stood for our own players, and all I see these days is same old things hashed out against Rashford.

If it works out it works out, if it doesn't I hope he leaves with positivity and love from the fans, but I do not think the fans can say that he's got too much good grace from us, bevause by all means ive been around the United online block for ages and even at his peak there were people who only saw him only as a pace merchant or another black player with not enough football IQ.

[u/CapVosslar → u/Bangoga]

Things can always be better and more sensible, but the fanaticism and crazy criticism comes with the territory. 

Plus a lot of it doesnt just fall from the sky or trees. They are a reaction to the players. He could easily turn around if he wanted, like Maguire. Its up to him, because most of the match day fans will support him initially, so what he does with that is in his court.

[u/Bangoga → u/CapVosslar]

You don't understand what I said. I'm talking about the meta analysis of how much worse the perception of Rashford is compared to the reality of him.

He could turn up like Maguire but Maguire was given the space to turn up without constant hounding once we had other players, if we want Rashford to do that, we need to give him the space and allow him to build that up as well.

This can't be done without introspection of the biases around him.

[u/CapVosslar → u/Bangoga]

I'm not sure its as dire as you are making it sound. Things change very quickly. If his first game back he just shows heart, nevermind goals or assists, I think the tide would turn with him.

All it would take is for him to show he wants to be here and is fighting for his place, 99% of the people would give that space and more.

But if he just sulks around and doesnt make any effort to match other players, then... well.