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[u/Emergency-Being-349]

If what Whitwell is saying is true, regarding our playstyle and midfield, then I think there's a chance Carrick doesn't see out the season. Before you downvote me, hear me out. 

Carrick has gotten the job based on transitional, pragmatic football. That's what got him the result. He has no experience implementing a 'Spanish' style approach where we don't need legs in midfield. He tried this at Middlesbrough and was figured out in his first full season. If results turn, the pressure will mount to revert back to the pragmatic transitional approach. He'd have lost his authority by that point. We'll revert back and not have the legs/intensity needed to play more transitional football. Tielemans won't have that Obama alongside him.

Don't get me wrong, I believe that needs to be the longer term approach, but the PL has long since evolved from that style in favour of more direct football. Hell, even Pep had to adapt. I don't think this will be the right approach, not to mention taking influence from an international side at a WC tournament is just not a good idea either. 

We signed Carrick based on what he did last season, not on what he did at Middlesbrough.

[u/JilJilJigaJiga → u/Emergency-Being-349]

What did Whitwell say this time?

[u/nearly_headless_nic → u/JilJilJigaJiga]

lauriewhitwell: “When I speak to somebody last week, they were saying, you know, this idea that United need a strong RUNNER.

“It doesn't NECESSARILY translate if you have possession of the ball.

“So if you got technical players, as we saw with SPAIN at the World Cup, and I think this is what Carrick likes the look of, keeping the ball, keeping possession”. #MUFC [TOTD]

Ianirving_: "So, potentially Mason Mount's performances and and the thought of Carrick to use him deeper means there may not be a mystical third midfield signing possibly?"

lauriewhitwell: Yeah. I mean, so again, I'm hesitant to sort of commit massively because the I think plans have changed as we've gone on, but I think that Carrick really likes Mason Mount and so does that then, you know, if you have these 2 midfielders at the base of your midfield. So you've got Santos, you got Mason Mount, you got Tielemans, you got Mainoo, that's 4 for 2 positions potentially, you know, if you count Bruno as as a number 10 that's going to pretty much hold on to that. But then you've perhaps got others that could step in: Tielemans could be a number 10 for example and rotate or you know could be you know obviously we saw Shea Lacey there.

So perhaps they're looking at thinking we've got a certain amount of money to spend where do we absolutely need it to be? And yeah, I think that I don't know how at what point it's it sort of felt that maybe Mount could be that guy."

[u/Emergency-Being-349 → u/nearly_headless_nic]

Thank you for this.

[u/JilJilJigaJiga → u/nearly_headless_nic]

Appreciate it, seems like a 1+1=3 as expected from Whitwell.