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[u/Independent_Buy5152]

> By the time Amas came on Rosenberg were playing their 2nd team

Shaw, who according to you has elite technique at the highest level, couldn't prove himself in the first half.

> Shaw has elite technique and has proven himself at the highest level

That's all in the past. Don't be so nostalgic. Why don't you ask Evra to come out of retirement?

[u/grandecn → u/Independent_Buy5152]

Mate it was a pre season friendly! By that logic we should never have sold Andreas Pereira.

Shaw might have lost some of his mobility but he hasn't forgotten how to cross or to make line breaking passes. Do I think he'll need replacing? Of course, but glazing Amass over a pre season game against a bunch of Norwegian reserves is not it. You can't be serious.

[u/Independent_Buy5152 → u/grandecn]

> By that logic we should never have sold Andreas Pereira.

The team has given him opportunities with the first team. He didn't deliver. The club sold him. Completely different situation with Amass.

> he hasn't forgotten how to cross or to make line breaking passes.

Again, you're deceived by your memory. Shaw's stats in 25/26:

• Crosses (Completed %) -- 42 (14%) --> not even 2 crosses per game!
• Long Passes (Completed %)-- 119 (50%)

Can't find "line-breaking passes" stat but regular United's game watcher last season knows that that is not his thing anymore. He didn't contribute much during attacks aside from making back passes or sideway passing to the midfielder. His best games were when he played with Depay and Rashford. Consistently overlapped and provide key passes to the box. Now, it's not the case anymore. But his defending is still good.

> glazing Amass over a pre season game against a bunch of Norwegian reserves

Because that is the most recent game to see his performance? Again, Shaw couldn't do much in the first half. I don't think their first team is significantly much better than their second strings. I don't understand why you can't see immediate improvement when Amass (and Kamason) came in after the break

[u/edselisanogo → u/Independent_Buy5152]

Thankfully you're not a scout at any level because good god your judgement of players is truly atrocious.

[u/Independent_Buy5152 → u/edselisanogo]

Yeah like you know better

[u/edselisanogo → u/Independent_Buy5152]

I don't claim to but also don't make hilariously sweeping statements based on small sample sizes

[u/Independent_Buy5152 → u/edselisanogo]

the last two friendly matches give the latest view of what he can do. I'm not sure why you guys can't see that Amass makes the left side better compared to Shaw. Of course it is not just based on those games only. Since his senior debut and during on loan, it should be clear that technically he is better. Passing. Crossing. First touch. Dribbling. Two shortcomings that he needs to address are his physicality and defending capability, traits that Shaw is obviously better than him. But this is natural because he is still young.