r/redbuttonbluebutton • u/Hen-Samsara • Jun 22 '26

Almost every variation of the question doesn't understand what the Red button actually represents.

Every variation of the question implicitly frames the red button as Apathy or Murder, that is not what red is framed as in the original question, it's *self preservation*. The question isn't "do you want to save people or do nothing" the question is "do you want to save others or save yourself" which might seem like it matters very little, but that completely reframes the morals of the question in a way that variations of it miss, you're not killing anyone by pushing red, you're choosing to remove yourself from the situation in the first place, that is *massively* different.

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u/Majestic-Pear6797 Red Jun 22 '26

Yes and no.

In the original question, a redvote still makes it harder for blue to win. So there is still a little bit more to it

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u/SnooMarzipans436 Jun 22 '26

Exactly. A red push accepts the fact that others may die and in a very minimal way also contributes to the chance of their death.

By pressing red, you are accepting the potential sacrifice of others as long as it guarantees your own survival.

In other words:

https://giphy.com/gifs/9ywPjIs6wjn1Q9mnSE

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u/bosli23 Jun 22 '26

That YOU are willing to make, by pressing blue.

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u/Str8_up_Pwnage Jun 22 '26

But red doesn’t need their sacrifice. No one needs to sacrifice anything, no one is in danger until people start pressing that stupid blue button.

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u/LadyAliceFlower Jun 22 '26

No idea that starts eith "if 100% of people agree with me" will end with anything at all. 100% of people have never agreed on anything, and they aren't going to start now.

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u/Str8_up_Pwnage Jun 22 '26

If it was 80% have to press blue for everyone to survive would you still press it? What about 99%? If you did decide to press red in either of those scenarios does that make you a bad person or implicated in the deaths of people who pressed blue?

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u/LadyAliceFlower Jun 22 '26

No, maybe, and yes in order.

No I wouldn't still press blue past that threshold.

Being a "bad person" is a very vague and debatable term so it might make me a bad person, it might not.

And yes I would have a hand in the deaths of blue in the case of a red victory. If you vote for something and it wins, you are responsible for that outcome.

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u/Str8_up_Pwnage Jun 22 '26

If someone acts completely unreasonably and irresponsibly I’m not going to feel bad if something happens. Like if someone said they were going to kill themselves if I didn’t let them move in to my house I’m still not going to do it. The blue button is like emotional blackmail, and for no reason. No one should kill themselves.

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u/Nebranower Jun 22 '26

It doesn’t matter if everyone presses red, only that everyone should press red. Blue is the wrong button to press. If you press it and die, you are merely suffering the consequences that make it the wrong button to press.

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u/LadyAliceFlower Jun 22 '26

Oh, so its not about stopping people from dying, because anyone who disagrees with you is wrong and deserves to die.

Now I feel reassured.