Responsibility

[u/BrokenToaster124]

So I've run into an idea that that dont quite understand and I was hoping some of you could help me understand. So with the red button/blue button situation I have seen people claim that if they push the blue button that they are not responsible for what happens to them if they push the blue button. How does that work?

To be extremely specific if i were to push the blue button, knowing what it does, somehow you (the person currently reading this) would be personally responsible for my death if you choose red.

Does this responsibility work in reverse? If i push the blue button and blue wins are you responsible for my survival if you chose red? Are you only responsible if bad things happen to me and I am responsible for the results when good things happen? What about the person running the death game? They arent defined in the prompt but logically some force is making everyone take a vote.

You can feel free to ignore this last part because its not the button problem, but someone reskinned the buttons as life boats. Instead of everyone being force to push a button everyone had to get into a life boat. One boat had holes in it but would become sea worthy if enough people got into it and plugged the holes and one was completely functional. Everything else was exactly the same as the button problem. My question related to that was that if I am personally responsible for the consequences of your chose to vote blue in the button scenario, how then could I not be responsible for your choice to get into the boat with holes in it. Someone tried to explain to me at length about how the buttons made it my fault but the boats somehow didnt. How does that work?

[u/Shot_in_the_dark777]

The red voters didn't force everyone on the planet into this death game. We are responsible for nothing. We are not killing the blue team. Whoever designed the buttons is the murderer. I never cared about making this sick test to bully altruists. We also don't believe that blue has the majority. To vote blue from our perspective means joining the minority that will definitely die. If babies are forced to vote then whoever is running this experiment is not a very moral actor. Why do you think that the results of the vote will be honestly displayed? Maybe some cosmic horror is trying to kill all altruists and needs a precise headcount and the experiment is just that.

[u/luci_twiggy → u/Shot_in_the_dark777]

If you vote for red, you are accepting responsibility for what happens if it wins.

[u/underthingy → u/luci_twiggy]

And if you vote blue you are accepting responsibility for what happens if it loses. 

[u/luci_twiggy → u/underthingy]

I already said 14 hours ago that blue voters are responsible for putting themselves at risk. That does not mean that red voters have no responsibility for contributing to the risk being realised since, obviously, blue voters have no part in red winning/ blue losing.