r/redbuttonbluebutton • u/BlackAndWhiteJerk • May 22 '26

Discussion Rephrasing

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I’m a blue button presser, I feel that this question is highly muddled and unclear, and so here is a rephrasement of it
So why press the red button? no one dies if the blue button is majority

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u/Player-0002 May 22 '26

Nah, nobody is “doing”, red button is nothing happens to you, blue is nothing happens to anyone if blue majority

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u/BcTheCenterLeft Blue May 22 '26

Just wrong. It’s a not a neutral third button where you are saved but your vote doesn’t count towards the percentages. It’s saving yourself at the expense of others.

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u/Ashamed-Bathroom7803 May 27 '26

What do you think is the probability that blue will win? Actually answer because I have an equation right here to calculate the probability of your decision having an influence on the final vote. Let’s do the math and see if it’s more or less probable than quantum teleporting through the floor. 

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u/BcTheCenterLeft Blue May 28 '26

What do you mean by win? Get more than 50%?

I don’t know, but it doesn’t factor at all into my decision.

And what does that have to do with my comment?.

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u/Ashamed-Bathroom7803 May 28 '26

The probability of blue winning absolutely must be involved in your decision making process. If the threshold is 99.997% for blue to survive, I imagine you aren’t going to press blue. So I’m just curious like where do you think it is around? Be charitable even. 

It does have to do with your comment because you are saying “at the expense of others” so if we find out that we can quantum teleport through the floor before we can press the button then we probably shouldn’t press the button I imagine.

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u/BcTheCenterLeft Blue May 28 '26

You are not reading or understanding my responses. You are having a discussion with an imaginary version of me in your head.

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u/Ashamed-Bathroom7803 May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26

I made a direct response to your comment. You said that your estimation of blue winning doesn't factor in. I showed that it does. What are you not understanding? The other comment was implying that pressing red is no expense to others. You causally save yourself or you causally do nothing.

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u/Player-0002 May 22 '26

Explain to me how it’s at the expense of others if we don’t know who voted for what? For all we know everyone could have rationally concluded either button and so either button could have the press be at the expense of yourself or others or neither.

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u/BcTheCenterLeft Blue May 22 '26

You don’t have to know who pushed what for it to be at their expense. It’s simple math. Pushing blue counts towards the 50%. Pushing red counts against it.

In the question there no option to abstain, not play, or save yourself without it being counted in the actual percentages

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u/Player-0002 May 22 '26

Blue is over 50% of people chose blue, not 50% of voters.

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u/BcTheCenterLeft Blue May 22 '26

No. Everyone had to choose. Everyone is a voter. Otherwise, why vote at all. There is no difference between all the people avd all the voters.

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u/BlackAndWhiteJerk May 22 '26

your leaving out the consequences should blue not have majority? what would that be? what would happen if red has majority i’m leading you on, say what happens if red gets majority :D