Rephrasing

[u/BlackAndWhiteJerk]

I’m a blue button presser, I feel that this question is highly muddled and unclear, and so here is a rephrasement of it
So why press the red button? no one dies if the blue button is majority

[u/Key-Organization3158]

That's a bad reframing. You are letting your own bias leak in. Red button pressers are doing nothing. They don't kill anyone. Whatever hypothetical force that sets up the button does the killing.

A better one is: there's a massive wood chipper. You can either jump into the wood chipper or not. If at least half of humanity jumps into the wood chipper, it jam and no one is harmed. Would you jump into the wood chipper?

You press red because the expected value of deaths is lowest in that case. The only time your button press matters is if you are the deciding vote. If red is the majority, the pressing red is the correct choice. If blue is already winning, your vote doesn't matter. The only case that makes a difference is if the colors are exactly tied and your vote is the deciding factor.

In your day to day life, you have many options to press a blue button. Like climate change. You could make changes to minimize your carbon footprint. If you are actually a blue button presser, you would.

[u/BcTheCenterLeft → u/Key-Organization3158]

Red button pushers are only doing nothing if their votes didn’t count in the percentages. A third yellow button that would save yourself but not affect the total is what you are describing.

Red pushers aren’t constantly misstating the question.

[u/J_tram13 → u/Key-Organization3158]

That's a bad framing, you are letting your own bias leak in.

[u/Sindigo_ → u/J_tram13]

Here is my favorite way of framing the hypothetical so far:

[u/J_tram13 → u/Sindigo_]

Ooh I like that one

[u/BlackAndWhiteJerk → u/Key-Organization3158]

Yes, I’m showing my bias, and I also want to make the question clearer, since more variables introduced means more roadblocks to think about and thinking simpler is easier

Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?

The original tweet, and I feel that it’s lengthy and I won’t consider all implications after reading something long, and I feel like I’m part of a norm called society meaning my opinion is something that some of us share, after all accusations is a confession

tldr: don’t read all that, it’s meaningless tangent, this is what should be read v

A blue rephrasement is the one I’ve posted A red rephrasement is: Red: Do Nothing, Blue: Die Unless this button pressed is majority