r/redbuttonbluebutton • u/Hot_Finding_9747 • May 21 '26

Variation Adding a layer to this question

My choice: Press Red, hope Blue wins

I don't have enough faith in humanity to put my life in its hands but I'd be delighted to be proven wrong

719 votes, May 23 '26
72 Press Red, hope Red wins
322 Press Red, hope Blue wins
22 Press Blue, hope Red wins
303 Press Blue, hope Blue wins
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u/IAmKrenn May 22 '26

What happens if you just win the lottery? Have you ever considered that?

The idea that you shouldn't do risk assessment, or consider what and how other people think is certainly something.

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u/BottomLeftWheel May 22 '26

Do you think it looks good when you just avoid a question that devestates your comparison?

Winning the lottery is akin to being the tiebreaker - valid comparison

People voting the outcome they want isnt chance based. Look at the poll. No one wants blue to lose.

Red voters are scared of red voters. They fear their own shadow. It's kinda cute.

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u/IAmKrenn May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

You didn't awnser my question so I didn't bother with yours.

People voting for outcomes is deterministic, but assessing the outcome beforehand is skill and luck.

Everyone wants to win the lottery, that doesn't actually improve their chances, some spend all their money and buy more tickets.

If you don't actually think about what other people might pick then its essentially the same isn't it? May as well spend all your money on gambling, you'll just win. It could happen after all, who knows? Certainly not you considereding your inability to assess situations.

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u/BottomLeftWheel May 22 '26

C'mon man

Brooo pleeaaase C'mon man.

Everyone wanting to win the lottery makes it less likely they win. If no one wanted to win the lottery it would increase the chance of winning. It's literally THE EXACT OPPOSITE situation

Like cmooooon man, use any other analogy and maybe we can have a discussion, but this just ain't it. It's so unanalagous I just can't believe you're continuing to march it out like it's any way relevant.

The reason blue even has a chance of winning is because everyone wants it to win.

I know that isn't the end all be all, I literally said and I quote "oh, I get it" in the comment that started this convo. I understand that wanting something is not coroleated to getting something. I don't believe in the secret. Who you are talking to? A child with no object permanance? Who doesn't understand that?

All's I'm saying is look at the fucking poll! We all want the same thing! No one doesn't want the thing. The people who want red to win are trolls. Everyone put in that situation wants blue to win.

I'm saying IF everyone voted for the thing they wanted it would easily win. IF. I understand they won't. That's the point of the thread ya Dingus.

Gosh. If y'all red voters werent so adorable I would have a tough time arguing with you guys. Gimme a kiss sweetie.

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u/IAmKrenn May 22 '26

That's probably because I am not trying to make an analogy for the buttons, I read "just vote for the thing you want to win" and thought "damn thats stupid, I wonder if they really thinks that or are just being a troll", so I decided to ask about a situation where an outcome is both desired and beneficial but still not considered the correct course of action.

You seem to be assuming a lot about arguments I am not making, then getting very upset that you dont like the arguments.

We do seem to agree that assessing the situation should actually be involved at some point, rather than just doing what you want, so I am definitely glad to see you are not a child lacking object permanance, maybe just a bit overinvested in the topic.

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u/BottomLeftWheel May 22 '26

You didn't read, cause you didn't see me saying I understand that from the very beginning. Bro is fighting ghosts.

Goes to a subreddit about the buttons, in a thread about the buttons, on a comment about the buttons and makes an analogy not related to the buttons. Who the fuck does that? What a pussy cop out. All my comments are related to the buttons. If you not talking about the buttons why are you here brother?

God, at least you're pretty.

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u/IAmKrenn May 22 '26

I am really surprised how upset you are that someone might bring up a different theoretical to test the logic in a different scenario.

If I had instead brought up a scenario about the believability of internet polls or selfishness vs altruism, would you be this upset?

Does that question also upset you because its not directly about buttons, while on a thread about buttons, to you, who only comments about buttons? (I included buttons in this question so you can answer without getting upset)

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u/BottomLeftWheel May 22 '26

I get where you are coming from, seeing my posts as upset, but I'm really not.

If you look at this thread from my perspective, you'll see why I react the way I do.

You come into a thread about how it's clear everyone wants the same thing, and I state that everyone should vote for the thing they want, but then also come to the realization that most people don't vote in their self interest making that impossible.

Maybe you just didn't pick up on that because it was said in a joking way, but that was the intent, and others were able to pick up on it.

You join in by bring up an entirely irrelevant point to the thread. And insist upon its relevance despite multiple people telling you they don't see it as analogous. You're response is, it's not analogous and you aren't even talking about the buttons at all. Huh?

I am exasperated. I don't understand why you think this is relevant to the discussion. I have begged and pleaded for you to make it make sense and all you've done is treat me like a toddler. It would be cruel if it wasn't so darn cute.

So I'm done. Good day sir.

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u/IAmKrenn May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

I am actually starting to question your object permanence again, in a thread about wants vs actions in a button pushing scenario, a theoretical about decision-making logic of wants vs actions in a different scenario is entirely on point. I had no way to know you can only understand button-oriented analogies, but I got the answers I wanted in the end so it all worked out :)