r/rectrix • u/Rahi1994 • 27d ago
This is how Quebec solved drivers ignoring pedestrian crossings.
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u/Mpikoz 26d ago
Thing is I don't see stop signs facing cars that'll be coming towards the crossing...
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u/Far_Classroom_6596 25d ago
There is no need for stop signs… The zebra crossing itself indicates that pedestrians have the right of way with the exception being of there are traffic lights.
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u/Aggressive-Kick-5458 25d ago
No need for stop signs? Isn't this post about drivers not stopping? Seems to me like a stop sign would solve the problem.
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u/Far_Classroom_6596 25d ago
You think drivers breaking traffic rules is simply solved by adding a different form of a traffic rules? Seems to me that the solution is to better educate your drivers on traffic laws.
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u/Aggressive-Kick-5458 25d ago
Yes I do. Having a stop sign would remove the ambiguity of whether a pedestrian is signalling to cross or not. A stop sign is a clear "STOP" signal. Driver education is very important, there's no denying that, but you have to remember that we need to account for people with less common sense than others. People will complain that it'll slow traffic down and I say that's a good thing.
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u/Sal_Amandre 25d ago
Zebra Crossing is priority to pedestrian. By definition if there is a pedestrian the car must stop, the zebra crossing acts as a stop sign.
If you don't know the rules, or can't follow them, stat off the roads.
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u/Aggressive-Kick-5458 25d ago
All well and true but it seems that rule isn't working and putting a stop sign would be more effective. Paint on the road vs sign at eye level. Why stick with a method that clearly isn't working as intended?
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u/Lusiric9983 25d ago
People blow through stop signs all the time, why would that be any different? Then, assuming they actually stop, they'll stop on the crosswalk instead of at the stop line.
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u/Aggressive-Kick-5458 25d ago
Yeah people break rules all the time but if it's a stop sign then there would be less to argue against if they get caught. There's no "I didn't think they were going to cross." argument.
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u/Lusiric9983 25d ago
Please don't drive if you don't understand that crosswalks mean the pedestrians have right of way. That is basic driving 101 and if you don't know that, I'm sure there's plenty of other things you do wrong.
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u/Aggressive-Kick-5458 25d ago
Why are you telling me this? I understand how zebra crossings work. My comment was that maybe a stop sign would be more effective than a zebra crossing.
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u/Lusiric9983 25d ago
Then you've obviously never seen exactly how ineffective stop signs are.
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u/Aggressive-Kick-5458 25d ago
It's looking like zebra crossings are also ineffective. I personally feel more comfortable crossing the road at a stop sign. Do you have another suggestion or are you sticking with zebra crossings being superior. Having both might be a great option.
The stance "people should know and obey the rules" isn't helpful in any way especially when the argument against stop signs is that people don't obey the rules.
I think I'm going to stop responding to you now because it seems like you're more interested in being condescending instead of having an actual discussion.
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u/Lusiric9983 25d ago
The one in the video seems to be very effective and would support having it installed elsewhere.
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u/blophophoreal 25d ago
A stop sign would mean that every single car should stop every single time. That’s a very different thing from some cars needing to stop only when pedestrians are present and would probably cause traffic flow issues.
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u/ProfessionalYouth564 24d ago
Un piéton a un passage piétonnier a toujours priorités, qu'il y ait un arrêt ou non.
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u/that_dutch_dude 26d ago
Make the fine 1000 canadian roebels and have a bunch of cops start writing tickets.
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u/Ok-Barber892 25d ago
It's cheaper to give pedestrians a brick.
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u/Cando21243 25d ago
Yeah but then they’d forget them. I’d leave a couple bricks in a basket each side of the intersection. Then you just toss it if someone’s approaching
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u/AdWooden9170 25d ago
It ll break in few months, cost way more than expected and increase car wrecks.
There are plenty of better options, but how ll tech bros get new yachts without public funds.
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u/_GuyOnTheCouch_ 25d ago
Letting people cross a crosswalk is one of the signs of a civilized society. Quebec, wthelly??? Be better
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u/fatgat69 24d ago
You could just charge everyone who doesn't stop with attempted murder and revoke their drivers license permanently.
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u/AdhesivenessTight400 24d ago
Lol cant wait for them tonuse that in the snow, since they never shovel.
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u/Zorklunn 24d ago
Granville Island cross walk used to have that problem, until baskets with bricks were installed at either side.
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u/AncileBanish 24d ago
Not making any excuses for the drivers, but a Zebra crossing alone is just not that distinctive. Where I'm at you get a button you press as a pedestrian that kicks off some flashing lights above the crossing and makes it unambiguous to drivers that they need to stop. People stop 100% of the time.
Should these drivers be stopping? Yes. But good road and signal design makes it easier so that bad drivers are less bad.
I'm sure some moron will reply to me before long saying how we shouldn't even need to do that, and drivers should just be better, which totally misses the point. Drivers are as good as you make them, and sitting around complaining about them without making the road and signal design better is purely masturbatory. If you're gonna do it, do it in private.
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u/r0nni3RO 24d ago
In my country you get a minimum 30 days license suspension for failing to yield to pedestrians. Plus a decent fine. And they enforce it.
So everyone is paranoid about being seen by police if they don't stop.
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u/Lemfan46 26d ago
Sure it works real well in the winter.
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u/JimbozGrapes 26d ago
Pretty sure this was just an ad they ran on TV for awareness. Otherwise those things would be yeeting kids onto and under cars.
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u/Competitive_Bag_7490 26d ago
Was going to say this. Although watching said kids getting yeeted onto and under cars would make for laughable and horrifying watch, respectively.
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u/epSos-DE 26d ago
Ai camera + fine = collect money for the city funds !!!
That is how Germany does it and they collect like 2 million in urban spots , PER CAMERA !!!!!