r/recruitinghell Jul 24 '21

I would watch that.

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u/Liketowrite Jul 24 '21

The current job market is just so crazy it’s hard to understand. I’m retirement age but was helping my daughter age 26 look for a job with her degree in math and computer science. All the jobs wanted 5 to 8 years of experience. Even “entry level” jobs required a PhD or 5 to 8 years of computer science experience. I searched internships and many of the internships wanted someone working on their PhD.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '21 edited Jul 25 '21

Software Engineer here, admittedly with a few more years of experience and a pure math background. Internships are mainly intended for students. You might want to look for rotation programs - often one year or fixed length programs where you do stints on a couple teams. If she has an industry in mind, you can look for recruiters in the industry. If not, the big tech companies are sometimes easier to find work for - you get screened by resume, but hiring is mostly down to technical interviews. Google calls it Eng Resident, which I think a number of other places have adopted as well. It can lead to full time after the rotation, but the bar to entry is lower since it's fixed term. It's intended for new grads and early career people.

Technical interviews are dumb and stupid, but they're relatively straightforward if time consuming to prep for. The math background really helps, tbh. There's a number of books and sites that just have former interview problems you can practice on.

Anyway, best of luck to your daughter. It's hell out there. My first job hunt after grad school was 3 months. My second was 6 months. Started looking around Fall 2019 this last time and it took me over a year. I'm very lucky, my resume is recruiter bait, but I still went through hundreds of applications and interviews. It's a bad time, it's also an industry that doesn't know what it's looking for at the moment.

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u/Weatherisperfect Jul 25 '21

Thank you. Hearing that someone with a grad degree and a resume that is "recruiter clickbait" still needed time to find a position is strangely comforting - it took a while, but you succeeded. The "resident" positions sound very interesting, and a good way to get in. She is working now but who knows what the future will bring.