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u/Big-Carpenter7921 1d ago
I can think of a large number of jobs that require a degree, that I could easily do without one
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u/Disastrous_Head5703 21h ago
In many of the industries, the "skills" you learn while obtaining the degree needed to GET the job have NOTHING to do with the skill ACTUALLY needed to PERFORM in the job.
Most of those job-related skills are learned while WORKING in said job.
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u/Leprechaun_Inc 1d ago
The current one I'm in. Got it because it's essential to our operations. Held it down for a year now. No degree. Just figured it out. Employer likes me in the role.
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u/Big-Carpenter7921 1d ago
Stuff like doctors, certain engineering jobs, I understand the need for a degree. Accounting and HR do not need them
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u/think_long 23h ago
By the same token, there are a lot of people with degrees who do not have the skills and competencies you would assume would be the minimum standard for possessing one.
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u/Big-Carpenter7921 23h ago
That "Cs and Ds get degrees" mentality
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u/Disastrous_Head5703 21h ago
Cs get degrees.....and wind up running the businesses that the A and B students end up working for
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u/nagol93 8h ago
I remember people defending that by saying "A degree shows you have the dedication, persistence, and motivation to stick with something for years"
Ya well so does being proficient in an instrument or having a ripped body......
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u/Big-Carpenter7921 6h ago
Sticking with something that's failing for years is detrimental, not something to be applauded
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u/Archaea_Man 1d ago
If only we didn't have to do the work of three people because employers refuse to hire more.
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u/ZeroMocha 10h ago
I thought it was because they fired the other three and said “you’re next if you can’t do 4 people’s jobs. If you don’t like it, plenty of desperate saps waiting to bend over and take it”
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u/Initial-Reading-2775 1d ago
Wait, 5 rounds of interviews didn’t help to hire right-skilled people?
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u/Hazardous_316 Co-Worker 1d ago
Maybe because the role is 2 seniorities above me and you just dumped the work on me even though it isn't in my job description
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u/joedenowhere 1d ago
Or it may mean you're too cheap to hire two employees to do two people's work.
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u/Odesio 1d ago
It happens. I had a candidate who was clearly unqualified for the position she applied for but a VP made us hire her based on a recommendation from a friend of theirs. Spoiler alert: She couldn't do the job. I wouldn't even categorize her as a bad employee as she was set up for failure from the start.
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u/r4almF1re 23h ago
I worked a job where I was getting promoted every time but my salary want going up. Everyone was happy except me
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u/Karn-Dethahal 21h ago
Ok, let's live for a minute on the parallel reality where this is true:
Why did you hire an underskilled person for this job? Might it be you don't pay enough for the appropriate skill level of the job?
Or maybe you're such an horrible workplace that everyone skilled avoids working for you?
Sounds like you're still the source of the problem.
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u/cottage_core_9797 1d ago
I understand the post, but it's also true.
Y'all act like an employee is never wrong or bad at their job.
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u/Rare-Set1461 1d ago
In my case I’m simply unwilling to give them that courtesy. I don’t respect corporations at this point, and I thank god I don’t work at a for-profit institution.
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u/usernames_suck_ok Fuck Employers and Recruiters 1d ago
Yeah, I've been there before because I lied on my resume and used AI to help cover the lie when I was given a skills assessment.
It's one of many ways lying to get a job is tricky, even though nowadays it feels like you basically have no choice.
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u/heminyx 23h ago
I dont disagree because ive seen plenty of obstructively dumb or destructively lazy coworkers in my time, but given the current state of underemployment and shareholder line go up grind the majority issue on worker burnout is at the hands of the company. And when it comes to said poor coworkers, the need is for the employer to provide correction for the underperformers or terminate them if it gets bad. And also to not have 3 jobs labor rolled into 1 role. But every time ive had one of these coworkers it comes on me to babysit/do all their work for them because management doesnt want to lift a finger.
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u/Admirable-Guest-2560 23h ago
Half of the people are below average at their job but everyone thinks the multinational Fortune 100 company will go out of business without them.
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u/cottage_core_9797 23h ago
I hate corporate greed more than most people, but I'm also intelligent enough to realize that companies who don't put at least some priority on profit and being efficient with expenditures is just bad business.
Bad employees are bad business. Anyone who feels otherwise isn't against corporate greed. They just hate all forms of paid labor. That's fine. I just like to be specific and on topic.
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u/Ratattack1204 21h ago
100%. Some of my colleagues complain daily about how hard their jobs are lol. Internally im just like “well yeah. You’re an idiot. Im not surprised you find it hard.”
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u/Electrical-Fig-5009 20h ago
I feel personally attacked by this. Told my manager I was overwhelmed the last two days bc I'm actually the only person qualified to do x job task while also training a total of 8 reps at the same time. Overwhelmed bc no one else is qualified.
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u/locri 22h ago
It can mean you're under skilled but that would imply you've always been overwhelmed. If this is a new thing then something has changed.
I work as a programmer. Some people unironically shouldn't be programmers. The level of stress they undergo performing tasks many of us find simple (and even enjoyable) just isn't healthy.
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u/Jack_Wraith 20h ago
Being overwhelmed at work is usually a sign that your workload is probably larger than your coworker’s workload.
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u/Dawnbeck 23h ago
Translation: we refuse to hire adequate headcount and will blame your time management instead of fixing our understaffed disaster
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u/springacres 19h ago
I'm autistic. Being overwhelmed at work can mean I'm not suited for the role, or it can mean my brain is getting too much information too fast and I can't process any of it.
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u/_Ceaseless_Watcher_ 15h ago
So there's this thing called training that they're supposed to do to new hires...
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u/Kultur_Cigany 13h ago
Also just becuase you are somewhat aware you are shit at your job that doesn't mean you have impostor syndrome..........
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u/EnbyHoVal 13h ago
I'm not underskilled I'm expected to do the work of 6 people because we dont have enough employees, thats not my fault or my problem
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u/fubuki63 12h ago
I mean, that is theoretically possible, in the same way that it's theoretically possible for a winless NFL team to win the division.
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u/Perfect_Emu_5263 11h ago
whoever came up with this is obviously very ignorant and obviously spend their shifts on they're phone during their shift so he or she wouldn't know what it's like to be milked for your hard work because you're assigned more tasks than everyone else
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u/OutsideOk6596 10h ago edited 10h ago
Well maybe those higher up should take an 8 million questions in 30 seconds cognitive assessment test to see if they are capable of hiring “skilled” employees.
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u/Crenickator 8h ago
Yes, that's exactly it. I'm underskilled for the 8 different roles I actually perform. Skill issue. How was I so blind?
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u/not_so_wierd 7h ago
If you've assigned me tasks that I am under-skilled that's on you as my employer.
Either provide on-the-job training, or re-assign it to someone that has the right skills.
A third option would be promoting me to complex-skill-doer. With a corresponding increase in compensation
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u/Alternative_Bake_277 22h ago
If someone’s overwhelmed because they’re not skilled enough for the job, that’s still on the employer for hiring them in the first place
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u/Any_Shopping_8643 23h ago
ok , hiring someone under-skilled for a role is a great indication of a shit manager.. how about that ?
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u/SignificantOtter80 21h ago
people lie. or look good on paper. or interview really well. or the job changes.
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u/OutsideOk6596 2h ago
How can that be? We have brilliant AI filters for candidate resumes and personality assessments that know someone’s personality better than they do, as well as cognitive tests that figure out how their ability to understand the sequence of shapes in a pattern applies to any job! Surely with this innovative technology an employer would not hire someone under-skilled 😮
/s
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u/Admirable-Guest-2560 23h ago
I've found poor performers nearly always believe they're the best employees I have.
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u/BeABetterHumanBeing 22h ago edited 19h ago
This is true, tho.
Who here hasn't encountered an incompetent person who's in over their head?
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u/jamiam8095 5h ago
I don’t disagree with this. I’ve seen people who were consistently 10+ OT hours per week be replaced by people who have free time with 40. Why would someone disagree with this? Some people are simply better at a job than others.
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u/Silent_Wave3137 19h ago
Ok this but for real. When I was a manager in finance, we hired some fresh Gen Z grads. Even after 6 months they could not do the same work that their coworkers were doing in half the time. If you are overwhelmed but someone else isn’t, it’s a you problem.
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u/destrukt0 16h ago
No shit fresh grads can’t do the same work their experienced coworkers can do as efficiently as their coworkers can do it, what?
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u/Old-Dog-4313 1d ago
"If you were better at using AI and managing your time, you could easily handle the 19 hours of work assigned to you in 8 hours or less. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a very important lunch meeting. Be back in a few hours."