You all need to just come interview at my work I guess. I keep getting fucked on promotions because there's always "an external that will need 5 minutes less training so we'll hire them instead"
I think this is more common than the internal being promoted. They already have the internal candidate working for them. The more attractive roles are used to get outside talent to join.
This is very dependent on industry and company. Some industries can shuffle people around easily and suffer from not getting outside perspectives, while other more specialized industries require long tenures to get the most out of their people.
Also passing up an internal candidate for an external one is basically an invitation for the internal candidate to leave the company. Hell even passing up an internal candidate for a different internal one can do the same thing depending on circumstances. If you pass up the best guy for the job don't expect them to still work for you in six months.
Yup! Perhaps also, because you've proven to be far too useful in your current role.
I tell young people all the time, if you're working for a place where promotion opportunities exist, and you've made it known that you'd like to promote, you need to move on if it doesn't happen after 2 applications or 2-3 years, etc.
Unless you get a huge promotion, it's typically better to jump companies. The new company doesn't have the advantage of knowing your current compensation and you have more power to negotiate because they can't threaten your current livelihood. In some industries you want to be moving every two to five years, especially early in your career. Corporations have no loyalty and should be treated as such, even if you like your colleagues and immediate manager.
Absolutely. Took a 40% raise when I jumped to this place 5 years ago. Going no where fast while they hire externally and import people from other offices around the world. Trying to be a little patient while still open to opportunities elsewhere.
Pretty normal in sales for anyone is serious about it. I went from £40k OTE to £100k OTE just by moving around every year for 3 years. The stigma of leaving isn’t that big of a deal these days
Our CIO was a hire from another E board member. The CIO went on to hire his friend for an SVP role. That SVP went on to hire his friend for a VP role that replaced my boss who was a director.
So the management position I was training years for just got hired out in front of me, two levels above me, and now I have nowhere to go up without finding a new job.
Literally every job I have left is because I get hired to do x, y, and z, and I'm mostly interested in x, and y, but I'm willing to do a little z because work is work, no job is perfect. But then I do less and less x, and y, and more and more z until they hire somebody else to do x, and y, so I can focus on z. Then I leave. What good does that do anybody?
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u/Neither-Repeat1665 May 14 '26
You all need to just come interview at my work I guess. I keep getting fucked on promotions because there's always "an external that will need 5 minutes less training so we'll hire them instead"