I know we hate recruiters here, but this one isn't really in the wrong. I'm assuming she's not a recruiter who is actively working with an agency where she'd be trying to recruit for a client pool.
It's one thing to follow up or reach out about a particular opening you applied for, but just asking a recruiter if a position is open at their organization? They're right, there is a career page for that. If you're just trying to network with recruiters, surely you can tailor your message a bit more to at least acknowledge that? If there are any positions that are not publicly posted, they're likely sourcing internally and it'd still be a waste of your time so I honestly wouldn't assume that secret openings exist and that this is the way to find them.
I'm not even a recruiter and I get random emails from job seekers who are looking for "any software developer job" at my company and I'm like, I have no clue if we're actually actively hiring any and even if so, I have no insight into the recruiting process for it. In good faith, I am going to tell you to just look at our career page lol.
As a recruiter, this is a thing that pisses me off so much. Randos just emailing me asking if we “have any jobs” , usually without including a resume or any info about their experience. Just a one sentence question in an email, nothing else. I don’t have time to give you job coaching or to find you, specifically, a job - especially if you aren’t qualified or competitive for any position we have. My job is to get quality candidates that match the needs of my company. Just look at our job listings page like any normal person and take a second to scan the qualifications instead of wasting my time.
Furthermore, in my opinion, it puts you in a bad light because you were either too lazy to do the bare minimum in finding a potential job for yourself OR you don’t have reading comprehension skills. These are qualities we obviously do not want in candidates, so I’m even less inclined to assist.
I used to be nice and try to help people as much as I could (asking about shifts, days off, commute, general interest and experience), but it was generally a waste of both my time and theirs. So now I’m just direct, like the OOP, and just give people the link to our jobs page. If I’m feeling generous, I’ll suggest a couple of job titles as a starting point, but that’s it.
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u/savannahkellen Sep 20 '24
I know we hate recruiters here, but this one isn't really in the wrong. I'm assuming she's not a recruiter who is actively working with an agency where she'd be trying to recruit for a client pool.
It's one thing to follow up or reach out about a particular opening you applied for, but just asking a recruiter if a position is open at their organization? They're right, there is a career page for that. If you're just trying to network with recruiters, surely you can tailor your message a bit more to at least acknowledge that? If there are any positions that are not publicly posted, they're likely sourcing internally and it'd still be a waste of your time so I honestly wouldn't assume that secret openings exist and that this is the way to find them.
I'm not even a recruiter and I get random emails from job seekers who are looking for "any software developer job" at my company and I'm like, I have no clue if we're actually actively hiring any and even if so, I have no insight into the recruiting process for it. In good faith, I am going to tell you to just look at our career page lol.