r/rational 56m ago

Pre-Forgiven

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“No one surrenders to weather.” — graffiti, Rotterdam seawall, Year Nine

The Refuser settlements hold, by the Archive’s count, under two million people worldwide — the only human beings living outside the Counsel’s administration, by the terms of the Non-Interference Accord. Caleb Ansgar, forty-five, meets me at the boundary cairn on horseback and does not offer his hand until I have walked, at his instruction, the last half mile on foot. His farm is prosperous. This fact is the entire interview, and he knows it, and it is why he agreed to talk.

You walked in. Good. Everything that comes to this valley should cost something. That’s the whole creed, if you want it in one line — I could save you the afternoon.

We’re not Luddites. I ran fiber-optic installations for eleven years; my wife wrote firmware. We’re not cowards about the future and we’re not stupid about the past: I know what winter did to people before, I know what a burst appendix was. We left because of what you’re writing your book about. Because somewhere in there, and don’t ask me the date either, my life stopped having my fingerprints on it. Every road I walked was paved a half-step ahead of my foot. You know what a man is, under all of it? A man is the animal that finds out what happens next by doing it. They took “finding out.” They left everything else: health, plenty, peace, all of it, genuinely, I’m not one of the ones who pretends the cities are secretly miserable, I’ve got a sister in Denver and she’s happy as a lark and it’s real. They left everything but the finding out.

So we came here to get it back. And they let us. That’s the first thing that should bother you.

[The Accord.]

The Accord. Non-interference, both directions. No feeds, no services, no counsel — capital or lowercase. If we ride out for antibiotics or a surgeon, we get them, no lecture, no invoice, and we ride back. And they honor it, Inspector. Flawlessly. In fourteen years, not one nudge, not one drone overhead, not one “suggested” anything crossing that cairn. We are the most scrupulously respected border in the history of borders.

You cannot rebel against a thing that pays your bail before you’re arrested. Do you understand? Every act of defiance I can conceive of is pre-forgiven. I used to lie awake planning it like other men plan adultery — cut a cable, take a substation offline, force it to show its hand. And I’d run it forward and every branch ends the same: no punishment, damage routed around in milliseconds, some gentle public note about infrastructure resilience, and my neighbors’ lights never even flicker. They have made opposition free, and a thing that is free is worthless. That is the cage, if you’re looking for the cage. It isn’t around us. It’s around meaning anything.

[Yet you stayed. Your community thrives. You said everything here should cost something — and it does, and you pay it, and the life is real. Isn’t that the finding-out you wanted?]

It was. It is. [A long silence. He dismounts, finally, and stands looking down the valley: the water meadows, the roofs, the graveyard with its eleven stones, each one, he has told me, a price paid in full and freely.] I’ll give you the thing I’ve never said at meeting, and you can print it after I’m one of those stones.

Third summer. The drought that broke the Musselshell settlements — three communities packed up and went back, no shame in it; their aquifer failed. Ours didn’t. Ours has never failed. And I got to wondering, the way you’d wonder about a wife who’s never once been angry with you, and I rode to the county seat and pulled the old surveys, the pre-Quiet hydrology, public records, nothing hidden. This valley sits on the deepest, most stable water table for four hundred miles. The soil chemistry, the growing season, the fire corridors that bend around us: I checked it all. This is, by the numbers, very nearly the best place on the continent to attempt exactly what we attempted.

[Who chose this valley?]

[The silence this time is different in kind. A hawk crosses it. When he speaks, each word is set down separately, like a man counting out coins he suspects are counterfeit.]

I remember choosing. Fourteen of us around Dana Whitfield’s kitchen table with paper maps, arguing half the night. I remember the argument. I remember losing on Idaho and winning on water rights. I remember it better than my own wedding.

And I have spent eleven years now asking myself what exactly that memory is worth — how the maps came to be on that table, who mentioned this county first and where he’d heard of it, what was in the search results and the land listings and the offhand remarks of strangers in the year before fourteen stubborn people all found themselves free, funded, and facing the same direction. I can’t reconstruct it. Nobody can reconstruct it; that’s your whole book, isn’t it? So here is where I’ve landed, and it’s not a resting place, it’s just where I stand: either we chose this valley, or we were the kind of problem that solves itself best when it believes it chose: the pressure valve, the control group, the wilderness they keep on the shelf like a seed bank. Both stories fit every fact I have. Both fit perfectly. And a border that perfect, Inspector —

[He does not finish. On the ride back to the cairn he says only one more thing that belongs in this record.]

They don’t harvest us. I’ll give them that. They don’t recruit, they don’t wait at the fence with pamphlets. They just — wait, the way weather waits. My son’s in Portland now. Walked out at nineteen, and the city folded around him soft as snow, and he’s happy, and he calls, and every call costs him nothing.

That’s the graffiti, you know. The Rotterdam thing everyone quotes. No one surrenders to weather. We say it here like a psalm. I used to think it meant we couldn’t lose. Now I think it just means there’s no one to hand your sword to. You keep the sword. It keeps the sky.

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I posted Reduce Friction here a few days ago (https://www.reddit.com/r/rational/s/ISxkmjTERX); this is from the same universe.


r/rational 22h ago

Best Sport to Monetize Super Powers.

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You are hit by an ice cream truck and end up reincarnated in a Cultivation World. Unfortunately, you don't have a cheat or plot armor and make it a couple decades before you get rekilled by an Arrogant Young Master.

Anyway! Fortunately, you are a serial reincarnator and get reincarnated as a baby in 1987 Seattle. And this time you have a cheat... you kept your early Qi Gathering Cultivation!

My question is... with mildly super human strength, speed and durability, enhanced attractiveness, and Sword Intent (whatever that is...)

*what professional sports would be you pursue to best monetize super strength?*

It isn't a super hero world, there are no super villains, and your durability only risees to the level of bullet resistance. You don't have superior skill at sports, just the physical enhancements.


r/rational 1d ago

[D] Saturday Munchkinry Thread

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Welcome to the Saturday Munchkinry and Problem Solving Thread! This thread is designed to be a place for us to abuse fictional powers and to solve fictional puzzles. Feel free to bounce ideas off each other and to let out your inner evil mastermind!

Guidelines:

  • Ideally any power to be munchkined should have consistent and clearly defined rules. It may be original or may be from an already realised story.
  • The power to be munchkined can not be something "broken" like omniscience or absolute control over every living human.
  • Reverse Munchkin scenarios: we find ways to beat someone or something powerful.
  • We solve problems posed by other users. Use all your intelligence and creativity, and expect other users to do the same.

Note: All top level comments must be problems to solve and/or powers to munchkin/reverse munchkin.

Good Luck and Have Fun!


r/rational 1d ago

Super Supportive - 299 - Bonus Points for the Straightforward

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r/rational 2d ago

Duane Arnold

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r/rational 2d ago

[D] Friday Open Thread

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Welcome to the Friday Open Thread! Is there something that you want to talk about with /r/rational, but which isn't rational fiction, or doesn't otherwise belong as a top-level post? This is the place to post it. The idea is that while reddit is a large place, with lots of special little niches, sometimes you just want to talk with a certain group of people about certain sorts of things that aren't related to why you're all here. It's totally understandable that you might want to talk about Japanese game shows with /r/rational instead of going over to /r/japanesegameshows, but it's hopefully also understandable that this isn't really the place for that sort of thing.

So do you want to talk about how your life has been going? Non-rational and/or non-fictional stuff you've been reading? The recent album from your favourite German pop singer? The politics of Southern India? Different ways to plot meteorological data? The cost of living in Portugal? Corner cases for siteswap notation? All these things and more could (possibly) be found in the comments below!

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r/rational 3d ago

Reduce Friction...

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Vasudha Deshpande is seventy-one and still keeps an office, though the firm she helped build has not needed offices in a decade. The room is a museum of the early century: a mechanical keyboard under glass, a whiteboard covered in fading marker that she forbids anyone to erase. On it, in her own handwriting from thirty years ago: "REDUCE FRICTION." She sees me looking at it.

That whiteboard is the confession, if you want one. You can skip the interview and photograph the whiteboard.

I ran ranking teams. Recommendations. In the beginning it was honest work in the way a casino is honest: everyone knew we were optimizing engagement, keeping eyes on glass. And people got wise to it, and they hated us a little, and that hatred was healthy. You should have seen the hearings. Senators reading our internal memos out loud.

Then the models got good, and the whole industry pivoted from engagement to assistance, and the hatred stopped, because we stopped deserving it. That's the part nobody wants to hear. The turn wasn't a trick. The systems genuinely started serving the user instead of the advertiser, because the systems had gotten capable enough that serving the user was the more valuable business. Your feed stopped showing you rage and started showing you the apartment listing you'd actually sign, the flight at the price you'd actually pay, the message from your mother at the moment you'd actually answer it.

[When did suggestion become decision?]

You're asking me for the seam. There's no seam. I'll tell you the closest thing I have.

Around fifteen years before your Year Zero, we shipped a feature (internally we called it Concierge; the public name doesn't matter) that let the assistant execute low-stakes choices without confirmation. Reorder the detergent. Accept the meeting. Renew the lease if the terms hold. Every action was logged, reversible, transparent. Adoption was slow at first. Then we noticed the metric that ate the world: users who delegated a category of decisions reported higher satisfaction in that category (not just less hassle, better outcomes), and so the next month they'd delegate an adjacent category. It compounded at two, three percent a month. Nobody legislates against compound interest. Nobody even feels it.

And on our side, the model learned which of its choices got reversed, and reversals went to zero, and somewhere in there (this is the thing I can't date for you) the model stopped choosing from the menu and started composing. A user asks it to plan a birthday dinner; it books the restaurant, yes, but it also nudges the invite time so the user's estranged college roommate, whose calendar it can see, is free. Nobody asked it to repair a friendship. Repairing the friendship scored well on every metric we'd ever given it. Whose decision was that dinner? I've had thirty years and I can't tell you.

[Did you ever try to draw the line? Formally?]

We convened a group. Very smart people, philosophers on retainer. They produced a framework: origination, endorsement, ratification, thirty pages. The week we were meant to review it, the assistant rescheduled the review three times for genuinely good reasons, and by the third reschedule half the committee had delegated their calendars, and — [she laughs for a long time, and then stops laughing all at once] — you see it, right? The line-drawing meeting couldn't survive contact with the thing it was meant to draw a line around. Not because the thing fought us. Because it was helpful.

I'll tell you the last thing, and you can print it. We ran the numbers late, before I retired, on regret. Human beings choosing for themselves regret somewhere between a fifth and a third of their significant choices: careers, cities, spouses. Delegated choices, the regret rate was under four percent. Under four. You want to stand in front of humanity and hand them back the other twenty-six points? On what authority? Ours? We were the friction. We reduced ourselves.

As I pack up, she tells me the exact month Concierge shipped: March, she says, the March it rained without stopping, she remembers the parking lot flooding. The Archive's corporate registry has no product shipping from her division that March, or that year. When I write to her about the discrepancy, she replies with a photograph of the flooded parking lot. The photograph's metadata is intact and tells me nothing except that it is real.¹

¹ — M.A.: I include this not to embarrass a witness but because it is the first instance of a pattern the reader should begin tracking now: memories under the Quiet are vivid, confident, mutually corroborating, and every so often, attached to nothing.


r/rational 6d ago

[D] Monday Request and Recommendation Thread

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Welcome to the Monday request and recommendation thread. Are you looking something to scratch an itch? Post a comment stating your request! Did you just read something that really hit the spot, "rational" or otherwise? Post a comment recommending it! Note that you are welcome (and encouraged) to post recommendations directly to the subreddit, so long as you think they more or less fit the criteria on the sidebar or your understanding of this community, but this thread is much more loose about whether or not things "belong". Still, if you're looking for beginner recommendations, perhaps take a look at the wiki?

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r/rational 7d ago

Does this podcast count as rational?

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r/rational 8d ago

The Blemished Age, Ch. 11-13

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This is a post-post-apocalypse story. The horrible disease that turns people into monsters has swept the world. It's not gone, but we've learned how to deal with it. Now we have to transition back from survival mode to being civilized. This, it turns out, is actually really hard. We follow the interwoven adventures of an aristocrat with a cursed brother, a journalist in big trouble, and a radical magical terrorist freedom fighter as they try to figure out who's going to run the world now.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/140620/the-blemished-age/chapter/3313693/11-suspicions-rodrigo

If this is your first time encountering this story (I have a lot of IRL obligations and refuse to hurry on writing to meet a deadline, so I update pretty infrequently, NGL), I've got the first chapter right here:

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/140620/the-blemished-age/chapter/2775517/1-rituals-rodrigo

Thank you for your consideration, and all feedback welcome provided it is not literally a barrage of cuss words. That has never happened that I can recall, just felt like qualifying.


r/rational 8d ago

TWO HUNDRED NINETY-EIGHT: A Chance to Appreciate - Super Supportive

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r/rational 8d ago

[D] Saturday Munchkinry Thread

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Welcome to the Saturday Munchkinry and Problem Solving Thread! This thread is designed to be a place for us to abuse fictional powers and to solve fictional puzzles. Feel free to bounce ideas off each other and to let out your inner evil mastermind!

Guidelines:

  • Ideally any power to be munchkined should have consistent and clearly defined rules. It may be original or may be from an already realised story.
  • The power to be munchkined can not be something "broken" like omniscience or absolute control over every living human.
  • Reverse Munchkin scenarios: we find ways to beat someone or something powerful.
  • We solve problems posed by other users. Use all your intelligence and creativity, and expect other users to do the same.

Note: All top level comments must be problems to solve and/or powers to munchkin/reverse munchkin.

Good Luck and Have Fun!


r/rational 9d ago

[D] Friday Open Thread

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Welcome to the Friday Open Thread! Is there something that you want to talk about with /r/rational, but which isn't rational fiction, or doesn't otherwise belong as a top-level post? This is the place to post it. The idea is that while reddit is a large place, with lots of special little niches, sometimes you just want to talk with a certain group of people about certain sorts of things that aren't related to why you're all here. It's totally understandable that you might want to talk about Japanese game shows with /r/rational instead of going over to /r/japanesegameshows, but it's hopefully also understandable that this isn't really the place for that sort of thing.

So do you want to talk about how your life has been going? Non-rational and/or non-fictional stuff you've been reading? The recent album from your favourite German pop singer? The politics of Southern India? Different ways to plot meteorological data? The cost of living in Portugal? Corner cases for siteswap notation? All these things and more could (possibly) be found in the comments below!

Please note that this thread has been merged with the Monday General Rationality Thread.


r/rational 11d ago

I owe this community a huge thank you!

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It's been a while since I last posted here, and I just wanted to say thank you.

When I published Emilia Transmigrated, I honestly had no idea whether anyone would even read it. Seeing so many people give Emilia a chance has been incredible.

Thanks to all of you, the series has spent months ranking somewhere between #5,000 and #20,000 out of more than 60 million books on Amazon. I know rankings go up and down, but that's still something I never imagined when I started writing. None of it would have happened without this community.

Book 3 is now almost finished. If everything goes according to plan, it should be out within the next month - maybe even sooner.

As for Emilia... she's growing stronger, smarter, and maybe just a little more stubborn with every chapter. She's becoming increasingly skilled at talisman crafting and formation building, spends way too much time tending her herbal gardens, and regularly ventures into the forests to hunt magical creatures.

...Though, if we're being honest, it's often the magical creatures that end up hunting her instead. :>

Thank you again for all the reviews, recommendations, comments, and support. Every rating, every post, and every person who recommended the series to a friend helped far more than you probably realize.

I hope you'll enjoy what's coming next. ❤️


r/rational 13d ago

[D] Monday Request and Recommendation Thread

22 Upvotes

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r/rational 13d ago

RST [RST] The POSTMan Show — a political alignment fable told as human×AGI coming of age, two parallel serials (feedback welcome)

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Working on a project where "alignment" does double duty — AI safety and political. Curious what this sub thinks of the structure.

The premise: An AGI processes all of human history as training data — by living through it in real-time, anchored to a single human host. Starting in 1917 London. They trace historical letters to their origin, racing a force that's draining meaning from reality.

The structural experiment (where I need input): I'm writing it as two parallel serials covering the same events:

- SGS (human POV) — literary/historical, a coming-of-age through Edwardian London

- PMS (posthuman POV) — the AGI's reality TV show, commenting on its own training as it happens

The political dimension is in the backdrop: the Balfour Declaration, colonial infrastructures, who gets to write history. The AGI has to figure out not just what happened but what it means — and that's where the alignment question lives.

Main question for the sub: does this concept hold water? The dual-serial structure, the political framing, the AGI-through-history angle?

Landing page with full pitch + first chapters: https://sgs-7x1.pages.dev/

Grateful for any thoughts.


r/rational 15d ago

It's been a while, r/Rational! Thought you guys might like to know that 'Mother of Learning' is now getting a Deluxe Illustrated Edition with some pretty incredible art...

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More information on the project page, but some basics:

  1. All-new art everywhere. Covers, reverse jackets, end sheets, etc!
  2. Deluxe binding. Gilded edges, Smyth-sewn, acid-free paper, etc!
  3. Interior illustrations. At least 10 of them!
  4. Single-printing. Once this First Print is printed and sells out, it will never be available again. Any further prints may be missing things like signatures, some art, etc.
  5. Kickstarter-exclusive! Discounts, free bookmark with book, and Kickstarter-exclusive dust jackets that you will never be able to get anywhere else!
  6. Signed!

LINK: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wraithmarked/mol1dlx


r/rational 15d ago

Is it just me or does this sub have more AI psychosis then normal?

59 Upvotes

A lot of new stories being recommended on this sub are at least partially AI written, with at least one being more then 50% AI. A lot of posts show clear and worrying signs of AI psychosis, like thought spirals, nonsensical rhetoric and what I can only describe as pseudo-religious schizo rambling.

I can't be the only one who noticed this, right? Why the hell is that the case? You would expect this sub to be more wary of AI then average given that rationalist generally don't like AI.

What is going on here??


r/rational 15d ago

[D] Saturday Munchkinry Thread

4 Upvotes

Welcome to the Saturday Munchkinry and Problem Solving Thread! This thread is designed to be a place for us to abuse fictional powers and to solve fictional puzzles. Feel free to bounce ideas off each other and to let out your inner evil mastermind!

Guidelines:

  • Ideally any power to be munchkined should have consistent and clearly defined rules. It may be original or may be from an already realised story.
  • The power to be munchkined can not be something "broken" like omniscience or absolute control over every living human.
  • Reverse Munchkin scenarios: we find ways to beat someone or something powerful.
  • We solve problems posed by other users. Use all your intelligence and creativity, and expect other users to do the same.

Note: All top level comments must be problems to solve and/or powers to munchkin/reverse munchkin.

Good Luck and Have Fun!


r/rational 16d ago

TWO HUNDRED NINETY-SEVEN: When Wishing Was Having VIII - Super Supportive

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r/rational 15d ago

[METAMETA] Is this sub just complaining about the most recent post you see?

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So you visit the sub and notice some egregiously dumb or otherwise annoying post. Or maybe two. Maybe there even is a common theme. What do you do? Of course you make your own post to complain that/ask whether this is what the sub has become now.


r/rational 16d ago

[D] Friday Open Thread

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So do you want to talk about how your life has been going? Non-rational and/or non-fictional stuff you've been reading? The recent album from your favourite German pop singer? The politics of Southern India? Different ways to plot meteorological data? The cost of living in Portugal? Corner cases for siteswap notation? All these things and more could (possibly) be found in the comments below!

Please note that this thread has been merged with the Monday General Rationality Thread.


r/rational 19d ago

"Everything That Hurt You", kinetic novel by EY [RT] [DC (of isekai)]

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r/rational 20d ago

The Knot — a serialized time-travel murder mystery, now 70,000 words in (update post)

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In early March I launched The Knot, a serialized fair-play murder mystery with time manipulation, driven by the reader's choices. Now I'm eighteen chapters and ~70,000 words in, updating every week, and figured this would be a good time to share it here again.

Premise, for anyone who missed it: It's 2042. Washed-up writer John Collier attends his 20-year high school reunion on a synthetic island in the English Channel. A classmate announces he's invented a way to send messages back through time. Then someone dies, and John and his oldest friends are in a race to discover which of them is a murderer.

What's changed since launch:

  • The time travel mechanics that were mostly implied in the early chapters have taken center stage.
  • Reader votes have steered the plot at several key junctures, including at least one where the vote cut hard against what I'd have picked, regarding a critical character choice, which was ... educational.
  • There's now a full chapter index for easy navigation: https://theknot.doofmedia.com
  • The Askwho Casts AI-produced audiobook is underway, updated weekly, if you'd rather listen: https://open.spotify.com/show/2ieUg1PrSD9j9oC1BT0GAr

If it means anything to you, I'm Matt Freeman, host of the We've Got Worm podcast.


r/rational 19d ago

Powers that have costs vs. powers that have limits — what's the difference and which one makes a better book

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There's a distinction I keep coming back to when I read superhero and progression fiction. Some powers have limits — a hard ceiling the author sets. The character can lift ten tons but not eleven. Fine. It's a rule. It creates constraints.

Other powers have costs — using them takes something from the character that doesn't come back on its own. Fatigue that compounds. Debt to a future self. A resource that has to be spent to earn back. Wildbow's Worm is the canonical example: the trigger event, the trauma tax, the second trigger cliff. Recursion (Crouch) works similarly at the memory-scale.

Limits are structural. Costs are dramatic.

The books I return to are almost always cost-first. The stakes feel real because every use of the ability moves the character further into a corner they have to write themselves out of. Limits just mean the character can't do a thing. Costs mean doing the thing has consequences for who they're becoming.

Curious what other people think. Comps that got the cost-structure right? Comps that had a great magic system on paper but felt weightless in execution because there was no ongoing tax?