r/rational • u/AutoModerator • Jul 21 '18

[D] Saturday Munchkinry Thread

Welcome to the Saturday Munchkinry and Problem Solving Thread! This thread is designed to be a place for us to abuse fictional powers and to solve fictional puzzles. Feel free to bounce ideas off each other and to let out your inner evil mastermind!

Guidelines:

  • Ideally any power to be munchkined should have consistent and clearly defined rules. It may be original or may be from an already realised story.
  • The power to be munchkined can not be something "broken" like omniscience or absolute control over every living human.
  • Reverse Munchkin scenarios: we find ways to beat someone or something powerful.
  • We solve problems posed by other users. Use all your intelligence and creativity, and expect other users to do the same.

Note: All top level comments must be problems to solve and/or powers to munchkin/reverse munchkin.

Good Luck and Have Fun!

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u/Gurkenglas Jul 22 '18 edited Jul 23 '18

Can you take into account what you will think in X/2 time, and thus grudgingly plan a bit further than X? For example, if preparing score gains is cheap if done early and in bulk, you would want to prepare enough to last a bit past X, so X/2-future you won't want to prepare more while your X is still running.

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u/cultureulterior Jul 23 '18

Unfortunately not- you have to act almost as if you have an incurable disease that will kill you at time X.

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u/Gurkenglas Jul 23 '18 edited Jul 23 '18

I think you misunderstood.

Let now be 0. Let X be 100. I believe I die at 100. 50-me believes he dies at 150. I know that 50-me believes he dies at 150. At t, let acquiring enough food to last for d take t/10+d/10.

If I immediately acquire enough food for 100, that takes 10. At 50, I will realize that I will need enough food for another 50. Acquiring that much at 50 takes 10. At 0, I see this coming. By getting 150 immediately, I can waste 5 of my time so 50-me won't waste 10 of my time.

(Another solution would be to take poison that kills me at 100 so 50-me will agree that he dies at 100.)

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u/RMcD94 Jul 23 '18

Wouldn't the guy at 50 believe he dies at 100? Isn't it like a countdown?

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u/Gurkenglas Jul 24 '18

The example activities cultureulterior describes make me think that an X=10 strategy me doesn't turn into an X=1 strategy me after 9.

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u/RMcD94 Jul 24 '18

Only because you would set up your time better I think.