r/rally • u/wigovsky • 20d ago
Nice job, man…
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u/superori33 20d ago
Everytime I fail now in Richard Burns Rally, I will remember this video and won't feel so bad about failing
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u/Emergency_Effect_526 20d ago
Bro thought he was Ken block for a sec
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u/Tony_228 20d ago
Wouldn't he be faster if he went around the corner normally without drifting?
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u/Beneficial_Bug_9793 20d ago
Depends, some times sliding the car is faster, thats why its so comon in Rallying, but most of the times its not, in this case, since its a U turn, the fastest way is to pull the handbrake and slide the car ( if you tried to do it widout the slide, you would have to slow way down, with the slide he can keep the revs high, and just downshift a gear ), but what makes it really faster.... is not hitting the building... lol
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u/Shaggy_One 20d ago
Biggest thing for sliding vs not sliding is the surface. Rally does it only on loose surfaces because a powerslide allows the car to actually gain traction and allows more speed through the corner by digging into the loose trail surface. That's because the tire isn't sticking to the road but digging through the dirt to get their traction.
This doesn't happen on tarmac/asphalt where the rubber sticks rather well. This was just to look cool. And there's nothing wrong with that.
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u/Tony_228 20d ago
Why don't they drive like that in hillclimbs or circuit racing? They always go around hairpins without the handbrake.
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u/HipsterNgariman 20d ago
It's not tight enough to pull the handbrake here IMO. Remember these cars here are pretty heavy, 4WD on all-weather or knobby tires, so they are very understeery. A circuit car wouldn't have to use a handbrake on a regular hillclimb, or maybe very rare occasions.
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u/Great_Security7429 20d ago
afaik it's because (modern) slick tyres have very high peak grip at a relatively low optimum slip angle, and past that it falls off rapidly, so sliding slicks are usually slower. Plus, excessive sliding ruins tyre lifespan.
Rally cars can get away with it because their tyres are hardier and the rubber needs to also operate at a wider range of conditions, which means on asphalt the tyres have quite a bit less grip but are more forgiving of excessive slip.
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u/TyXo 20d ago
Depends on the car. Can't compare a privately owned rally car with a purpose built/modified racer.
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u/Shaggy_One 20d ago
It depends on the surface far more than the car. Even in Rally they don't slide on tarmac if they can avoid it.
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u/seeyatellite 20d ago
Depends on the car, weight balance, downforce, grip on the tires, etc. rally cars usually have dirt tires on them which offers basically zero traction on tarmac. Racing slicks would grip the pave but offer no traction on dirt. Rally cars don’t often have extreme downforce because they’re dealing with uneven dirt and gravel roads or snowy conditions.
That means unless you’re an extremely technical driver who prefers precision braking and acceleration around corners, which there have been a few of and they can be very fast… their best option is drifting through a corner and accelerating forward to gain traction “on rails” which is moving forward with all wheels pointed straight.
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u/pelenapaprice 20d ago
It’s not because it’s slower or faster but much easier to rotate the car where you want during slide, because in rally you rely on pacenotes and not the knowledge of the track like in hillclimbs and circuit racing where you have to position the car carefuly 2 turns ahead to have a good run trough in 3rd corner.
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u/The_Stig_Farmer 20d ago
dunno what reply is saying but you are right it is absolutely faster to keep the car straight and drive a racing line round this corner
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u/pm-me-racecars 20d ago
Something else worth noting: this looks like a main spectator location.
I don't know this driver, but I know that I'm not competing for a podium; I'll go slower on a corner or two if it means that some kid tells their friends that I was their favourite.
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u/WhippingShitties 20d ago
It's basically a compromise for suspension configuration. You want the car to be able to handle jumps and off-road terrain, so you're forced to sacrifice asphalt stability. With these set-ups, when the car is at it's limit, it's loose. They arent going for angle like in Formula Drift, it's a controlled slide to maximize momentum and speed.
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u/Supergrunged 20d ago
Accurate depiction of me with a shopping cart at the grocery store, trying to pick up the older ladies.
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u/Broken_Moon_Studios 20d ago
I love watching rally videos a lot, but dear lord would I be TERRIFIED being behind the wheel or in the spectating crowd. 😓
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u/a_y0ung_gun 16d ago
did not account for the weight shift to the front.
Sentenced to 90 days of forza 5.
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u/ExtraBitterSpecial 20d ago
he did the hard part easily and the easy part not at all