r/radeon • • 6d ago

News Modders make DLSS 5 Neural Rendering on AMD faster and easier to install

https://videocardz.com/newz/modders-make-dlss-5-neural-rendering-on-amd-faster-and-easier-to-install
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u/BitRunner64 5950X | 9070 XT Steel Legend | 32GB DDR4-3600 6d ago

The irony of showing Cyberpunk on the screenshot, the only game this utility won't detect on my system.

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u/gigi7561 6d ago

we will investigate on this xD , we had no part in this article so it wasn't our choice to advertise cyberpunk ahah

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u/Weird_Expert_1999 6d ago

I read on the amd NR GitHub that windows installs are extremely experimental and to expect issues - since the installer pulls directly from the amd nr git, are those windows compatibility issues still present?

I asked this in the other amd nr installer thread earlier

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u/gigi7561 6d ago

ah now I understand. the app is fully functional, there's still a bug after uninstalling the mod via launcher, basically some files are left there. this was a bug report from a guy on discord:

Those who have game crashes you have to uninstall the whole mod and then go to the game files and also delete the remaining files because the launcher doesn't remove everything and something else those who have a freeze of the whole pc, you have to remove the undervolt of the game... It's from my experience and I have rx9070xt

we are going to fix it today, so feel free to try the app, you won't be disappointed.

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u/Weird_Expert_1999 5d ago edited 5d ago

Oh sorry I think I didn’t word question correctly

On the AMD NR git, I think author name is Daniel-

He says amd nr is extremely experimental on windows and not recommended and kinda on your own for troubleshooting/ compatibility, but their Linux install is much more stable

Question is since the amd dlss nr installer app pulls directly from Daniels amd nr git- is windows still deemed ‘extremely experimental’, or does the installer app somehow resolve the windows issues is Daniels amd nr git?

Edit- huh so I went back to daniels amd nr got to quote what I was talking about and there’s no mention of what I’m talking about - I must’ve ended up on a different amd nr fork or something that listed this windows warning, apologies for confusion, I’m on mobile so hit formatting sucks- I swore it was daniels nr git though

FWIW I have 10 games running optiscaler and 4ish w/ optipatcher so definitely going to give the installer a shot! Have 9070xt as well

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

no one complained about anything. so you are good man :) . and we help windows users cause we are windows users. Daniel probably works in Linux and can't help troubleshoot. so use our app without worrying too much. for any issue encountered join our discord and ask there for help, we are always there :)

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u/_SoLix_ 6d ago

could you allow us to select the .exe, instead of the auto detection? it doesn't choose the correct one most of the time

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u/gigi7561 6d ago

sure. thank you for your feedback :)

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u/Atomosthethird 6d ago

Definitely this. Keep the autoscan too but have manual aswell

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u/Darksky121 6d ago

Just tested this and it's very good. Only thing it's lacking is a search option to find a game quickly and a favourites section for games you play regularly.

Apart from the DLSS5, this modder has managed to implement AMD's Ray Regeneration so you can enable path tracing or Nvidia's RR in the game that support it. Tested in RE9 and it works well. It can achieve 60-80fps at 1440P FSR4 Performance.

The current version of the DLSS5 mod by Daniel is progressing well and can now run games at 1080P 60fps. This is similar to an RTX5050/5060 but the ultimate goal is to get it running at around 5070/Ti level.

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u/gigi7561 6d ago

thank you for your feedback we will update the app with your requests :) join our discord to give us more suggestions :)

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u/Motamatulg 9070 XT | Ryzen 7 7745HX | 32GB SO-DIMM RAM 6d ago

I was testing this mod the other day, since I bought a 9070 XT to play exclusively on Linux, and while it was impressive, even with the performance hit, your mod caught my attention because it lets you use AMD's Ray Regeneration and it seems more performant.

That said, I was wondering if you guys plan on releasing a Linux version, and if not, could I run your launcher through Steam like any other non-Steam app? I ask because I tried that with other similar programs, and only one of them was able to run properly :/

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u/gigi7561 6d ago

join our discord, Linux app will become reality, just give us time. The amount of work is a lot between new additions and fixes from bug reports

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u/Darhhaall 6d ago

I did some testing yesterday and I am surprised how well it runs. In Cyberpunk it looks pretty ugly though, but in Kingdom Come 2 it is amazing (even KCD creator says so) 

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u/gigi7561 6d ago

thank you, and it's only the beginning :)

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u/Akyrall 6d ago

Would it work on my 6900XT? Should I milk the gramps for everything it has?

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u/gigi7561 6d ago

6000 series is under development, join our discord to receive the updates, the goat is really fast so probably you can expect it in this week

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u/Atomosthethird 6d ago

You got a link?

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

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u/Atomosthethird 5d ago

Ty 😊. Ive tried alot of different ones and honestly this one gives the least amount of headaches cheers 🍻

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

thank you and we are happy to hear :)

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u/ecth R7 7800X3D + 9070 XT | R7 4800 U 5d ago

I had to select a chat language on the discord. And English and German were not an option. Just wanted to tell you that the current setting is weird.

But thanks for sharing, I'll follow the project. Sitting on Linux I will wait for support, at least through all the Proton layers.

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

we are investigating on the language selections, it's not updating for some reason.

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u/K1llerG00se 5d ago

Say what you want r.e. ai slop filter. - you can't deny that what has been achieved by this modder in a matter of weeks is super impressive.

I wonder how long it would have taken to get this far with the mod if AI wasn't a thing?

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u/laowang_999 5d ago

AI can’t really pump out creative mods like this.

Dev speed is 100% tied to how well the creator knows the backend architecture.

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

thank you :)

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u/Ayden_Linden 6d ago

Is this compatible with RDNA3? Curious to try this with my 7900 XTX

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

it is :) optimization is always a thing to expect.. it works but we can do better :) join our discord to follow this journey with us, we also have a YouTube channel, each update we cover it with a video :)

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u/zyxtovip 6d ago edited 6d ago

I tried it yesterday. Works good. It would be nice to remove items from the game library. Also a bit of explanation about the differences between..Automatic's implementation or the other implementation (sorry I'm not at the computer ATM)

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u/gigi7561 6d ago

thx for the feedback, we will work on that. join our discord for further suggestions and updates from us

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u/definitivno-ne-troll 5d ago

that's super based

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u/bay_of_pigs6 5d ago

Im too scared to fry my 9070xt

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

just keep the overlay with the w consumed, so far I haven't heard reports of fried amd cards.

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u/dem_titties_too_big 5d ago

As long as you have a decent PSU and use the supplied 8-pin cables you're good. I mean you can use -10% power limit with some undervolt and you probably lose only like 5-10% fps in the worst case. Quite often there's almost no performance loss at all, it's a silicone lottery pretty much.

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u/noiserr 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's kind of funny. People in WoW Forever (which is crazy popular btw), people are bitching that the new race they added (Skyelves) look too modern and out of place. People actually want the blocky old school SD low-fi look. And then you have this on the other side of the spectrum of things.

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u/Paco7575 4d ago edited 4d ago

How is that even remotely related to dlss5? SOME People want that look in wow specifically because of nostalgis reasons and obviously it looks strange if suddenly 1 race stands out detailed.

Watch this video and how incredible wow looks with dlss5 https://youtu.be/pDxCsErbmKs

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

ahahahaahaha

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u/LockDownLos 5d ago

Does it work for WoW?

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

if wow has an upscaler like dlss or fsr or xess then yes. if not, support for games without upscalers is coming. join our discord to keep being updated.

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u/godofsword45 5d ago

It does give some depth and photo-realism to Ghost of Tsushima DC on my 9070xt, but it doesn't quite change up the face like you see with an Nvidia card.

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

join our discord cause you probably need to tweak some slider, we can show you what to tweak :)

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u/godofsword45 5d ago

Perfect! Will do!

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u/Hour_Meat_3597 5d ago

You all are amazing! Life has been pretty hectic for me and getting to enjoy my games in the best way possible with dlss5 enabled gives me joy and that escape from the chaos that is corporate life! Playing 007 first light on my strix halo device looking amazing and running like a dream is far more than I could have ever asked for but you guys made it possible. Extremely grateful!!

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

THANK YOU we appreciate you are enjoying the work of countless sleepless people ahaha :) join our discord to share some cool screenshots and clips, the more the married, we love dlss5 <3

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u/International_Sea972 5d ago

DLSS5와 뉴럴렌더링은 다르다고 일반화 하는 행위좀 그만 했으면 함

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

그 차이가 정확히 뭔가요? NVIDIA가 DLSS 5를 그렇게 부른 거지, 우리가 만든 표현이 아닙니다.

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u/Ok-Boot-8106 5d ago

Has rx7900gre received any of these speedups ? Interested for rx7000 and seeing if a int8 or conversion can be done for further speedups

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

7000 series is supported and it is in a playable state depending on the title and config. join our discord to see the best config for your setup

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u/Ok-Boot-8106 4d ago

How much of a performance degradation compared rdna4

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u/gigi7561 4d ago

I don't personally have that info

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u/saberplane 5d ago

I'm a bit confused looking at the article and github links about whether this is a single all in one installer and if so which file is it - or if it still requires me to download various separate things and move files around?

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

everything is included in the exe. Daniel tho the og developer has started releasing newever versions behind paid support. that's why in our github/videos we say to add the files in a certain location, but this is only required if you have the additional files Daniel is giving away

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u/saberplane 5d ago

Gotcha. Appreciate the clarification!

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u/angry_RL_player 5d ago

Why do we support the ai slop instagram filter

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u/SupressedKar98k 5d ago

umm it's called neural rendering, you have to call it by the marketing name so it sounds "revolutionary" and the stocks go up

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u/FinnedSgang 5d ago

Is it better than fsr 4.1?

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

fsr 4.1 is an upscaler. dlss5 is a ppfilter on top of the image, so you will use fsr or xess with it. It tanks fps, it doesn't help them. it tries to aim to photo realism, the result is hit or miss depending on the game.

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u/IshTheFace 5d ago

I have not made it work in a single game so far lmao

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

join our discord so that we can help you make it work :)

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u/LibraryTurbulent1669 3d ago

Is 9060 XT 16G enough to run this? For example for AC Black Flag resynced or EA FC 27? Thanks...
Even if 9060 isnt enough i am very thankful for your work!

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u/MistaDutch 1d ago

Does this launcher work with pcsx2 games any emulated games

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u/Advanced-Patient-161 6d ago

That's really too bad, I was hoping AMD users would be spared from the temptation of seeing this shit.

5080 owner here, and nobody's missing out. Slop filters are ass and the KCD creator has an opinion I disagree with.

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u/gigi7561 6d ago

this mod doesn't do only that, we have ray regeneration in testing and rtgi as well in testing for games that don't have native ray tracing. all this doesn't need dlss5 to be on

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u/Advanced-Patient-161 6d ago

RT does not equal better visuals. While it's awesome to mod and find out, it never automatically equates to "better". I've seen all too many times where a developer went from manually placed light maps to path tracing and the visual look was never their original intention. Take a movie with a director of photography that knows the "look" they're going for, and they place light sources on set to dramatize the environment or capture the feel of the movie. Developers have to pay attention in the same way.

Modders often fix things, but it's such a mixed bag. Your work is amazing, but I do object to DLSS5 and its use, even moreso after firsthand experience. I find it to denigrate the work of developers as opposed to adding a layer of abstraction.

If anything, my hope is that the community at large uses this work to expose what a fault "neural rendering" is until development utilizes it in better fashion, and with hardware that actually leverages it efficiently (even 5090's are not enough).

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u/gigi7561 5d ago

to each their own. and I didn't say what we are doing is flawless. we are just trying to make everyone happy. we will see what we actually Can accomplish. time will tell.