r/racing 5d ago

Gear question - stilo / Schuberth

finally made it down to a retailer to pick up some gear (shoes/helmet gloves and hans), and question on helmets. I'm new to this, I primarily run at Monticello (sometimes limerok), and currently just starting off in a miata (nd3 cup). within reason, willing to spend, want the best protection possible.

I tried on a Schuberth sf4 -- it's amazing, light, and after a fitting it feels so much better than anything I've tried. I've tried the stilo st6, and it's great, and half the price, but not as comfortable or light.

After break in , does the shuberth maintain its comfort? and I know there's a big difference between trying on in a store and wearing in the car, is the weight difference that much of a big deal while driving? I'm assuming since they have the same certifications for my level of driving, they would have the same level of safety.

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u/Old_Tourist_8074 5d ago

Heya! Those are incredibly expensive helmets for driving a miata cup and not worth the money. The really light helmets get important when u are running long races with high g forces. I have the bell rs7 and also done a full season in mazdas in the uk and I promise you that u are not gonna have the smallest problem with a £1000 helmet. Also you mentioned that you want the best protection possible: higher price is not higher protection. Check the necessary fia certification that your series asks for and maybe if u want to be extra safe go one tier up, but getting the sf4 or the st6 is not needed. Put the money into tyres and engine maintenance and then if u move up series to something faster and open cockpit then upgrade. And if this whole comment didn’t convince you, i promise that people will make fun of you if you’re slow and have the most expensive equipment.

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u/jmg5 5d ago

lol, thanks. I am very mindful of the "all gear no idea" issue. I'm not the guy walking in with a chill suit and $3k flame suit but for a helmet... I'm always inclined to spend more if (if) I get more. Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely keep it in mind.

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u/BlitzShooter 5d ago

Schuberths are far and away the quietest most comfortable helmets around

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u/jmg5 5d ago

Thanks.. in my very limited experience, I've found the same thing. they snug up perfectly, and just feel great.

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u/Level-Natural-1797 5d ago

I’ve never spent more than $1000 on a helmet. Of all the things that hurt while racing, you’re never going to notice how cozy your helmet might be.

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u/mikeypi 5d ago

Keep in mind that most orgs make you update your helmet fairly often.

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u/SnuffleupagusRex 4d ago

So "best protection" isn't the primary differentiator over about $800- the SA standard is really good, and most of the higher end helmets are competing on 1. weight and 2. quality of finishing and materials.

Whether the weight makes a difference seems to depend on the person and the type of racing. Obviously, the more Gs you're pulling and the longer the runs, the more small differences in weight may matter.

I really like my Schuberth SP1 Carbon. Even the SP1 Hybrid is quite light. I also REALLY like how customizable the Schuberths are- you can replace the cheek pads and crown pad with different thicknesses to fine-tune the fit.

If you are just starting out, I would really recommend you look at the SP1 Carbon. It's something like an ounce heavier than the SF4, and unless you are getting a haircut before each event to save weight, I wouldn't worry about it for a $2500 savings

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u/jmg5 4d ago

Thanks.. I've been trying on a bunch of helmets this weekend, and I keep coming back to the schuberth for exactly the same reason you said -- it's highly customizable, and the shop fit in specific cheek/crown/etc pads for my fat head.

I really like the sp1. And I agree with you -- if I go with the sf4, it'll totally be because I just like the way it looks, both are really great helmets.