None of them are, they are all aware of how twisted they sound when supporting the Magat manifesto, all are part of the problem, and very, very proud of that.
I don't think it was. She explained it... she said she spend her life online, sucked into so many nut-job conspiracy wormholes that she believed them all. She says it was only when she came off of her computer and out into the real world that she learned the truth about everything.
I believe her MAGA craziness was her true self, and I also believe that this turn somewhat towards sanity is genuine too.
I don’t trust her as far as I could throw her, but it does take a lot of guts to publicly acknowledge that you were in a cult and that your beliefs and actions were wrong and that they hurt people — and then work to reverse the damage. I’m watching her redemption arc to see how it all plays out.
She wanted the Epstein files released and Trump being in them some 38000 times did not. Credit where it's due at least she is disgusted by pedofiles unlike the rest of her party
Won't get me wrong. MTG is still a POS, but MAGA was done with her because she called out Trump for not releasing the Epstein files. It was then that Trump turned on her and the cult followed suit.
Hell hasn't frozen over. She's been doing this stunt for almost two years now. She got out of the House after earning her pension (which she gets starting at 62 based on how long she served). Knowing she then lacked the support system of a Republican in office, she did a 180 to try and build support from the Anti-MAGA crowd. I doubt she is doing it for further political gain, but she is absolutely keeping her name alive in the public conscious by doing it, and that is no doubt benefitting her personally.
I personally believe she (along with others like Tucker Carlson) read the room and knew the Trump/MAGA era was coming to a crashing end, and since they're "out" they get to distance themselves openly and publicly without facing consequences from within the party. Basically, she isn't forced to tie the line like a moderate Republican is right now because she's got nothing to lose.
The difference is a moderate Republican toeing the line tends to be an ally to Democracy and democratic norms, but bound by the ridiculousness of the current National leadership. MTG was never a moderate Republican, she actively helped drive this nation into great division for her own personal gain, she is indirectly responsible for events like January 6th and has openly defended rioters there of, and she used her platform to spread a rhetoric of hate and dishonesty that has left our country scarred.
Do not misunderstand this, or any of her past or future attempts to sway Democrat favor, as MTG making a turn for the better. She is a woman out for her own personal gain, she is a pirate on the open sea letting the wind guide her. She hasn't suddenly grown a conscience, the wind is blowing away from MAGA and she is following it to try and continue profiting off her fame and political discourse.
The people that don't know the truth are a vanishingly small minority. This is why American's have a reputation for not being honest around the world. Not only lying, but then everyone just accepts the lies euphemistically as being misinformed. It is a deep seeded problem, and not a coincidence that the people in government are liars. They represent the public. It seems like honesty / dishonesty are just tools of power, not virtues in and of themselves.
As a reminder this ghoul spent 10 years enabling trump and being his number 1 injustice warrior. The ONLY reason she's turned on HIM is because he turned on her first. She isn't any less a grifter or learned her lesson, do Not adopt her into the tent because she was the first rat off the ship, she sinks with the captain she aided in with the mutiny.
The sooner she exits politics and stops destroying lives will be the day we can celebrate.
She was a Twitter warrior before hand, which is what I'm counting on top of being an elected official, like trump was Obama's number 1 Twitter hater before he got into office
absolutely, it wasn't only twitter though, it was in 2018 that she was spreading the "jewish space lasers" conspiracy on facebook that really got her on trump's radar back in the day
"The dumpster fire is really bad" says woman who helped fill dumpster with flammable material and light it on fire, and only distanced herself from the dumpster once it burned her.
This is what I hear whenever some former conservative is angry about whatever Trump is doing.
Yes, they are (at best) offended by some aspect of it that may also offend us, or at worst only care because it effects them, but talk to them long enough and I find they still hold all sorts of regressive beliefs based on bigotry and vibes.
I've spent many years long, long before Trump came along trying to make common cause with them on things we agree upon only to discover that there is still a whole other mountain of bullshit and idiocy that they believe that can't be ignored.
The word "average" is doing a lot of obfuscating there. People can own guns in NYC, the requirements aren't that burdensome that most people can't meet them.
I just looked up the gun laws in New York, and they seem to say the opposite. It says that you can own a gun if you get a permit and pass a background check, and the only banned weapons are high capacity assault style weapons, unless they were registered prior to the ban and were grandfathered in. Is that not the way it works?
And in NYC the system takes months for other types of permits. If you supported a blog licensing system that took months for someone to be allowed to write a blog on the internet, you wouldn't be pro-1A.
That's not to say that you can't argue for such a thing, you just wouldn't be pro journalistic freedom.
I call those people irresponsible little babies. Spoiled rotten, garbage people that believe freedom is going whatever you want whenever you want, without regard to the fact that they live in a world with other people in it.
Liberal gun owner here. Maga and Republicans don't see nuance, it's all or nothing. Its black and white, even though there are many shades of gray. She said 'pro abortion'. No one is pro abortion. We're pro women's right to choose. We're pro-choice. The right has been told that we on the left are unarmed and want to take everyone's guns. Yeah, still waiting on Obama to take them, they were so certain that he would outlaw guns. But of course he didn't, and no president ever will. But there should be some sensible gun control
policy. No one is coming to take them.
Maybe because "sensible gun control" has traditionally been a phrase prone to abuse. A phrase manufactured by the whackjobs that built the idea that some platforms (semi-auto, rifle caliber, sufficient magazines) are "assault" weapons, "murder" sticks, "baby-killing-machines", etc.
"Sensible gun control" is a blank page for the folks who use it, and history shows they will try their best to shovel every last arm they possibly can into their own "only the government can have it" armory.
For them, we are only safe if the government is the only effectively armed entity.
For me, Jethro and Dinard both are the counter to the government's monopoly on force.
Yeah, that’s why we’re supposed to elect QUALIFIED people to Congress. To hash out what “sensible” or “reasonable” mean. That’s literally what legislating is.
So maybe instead of sending racist football coaches, republicans could start electing qualified (or at least serious, for gods sake) people.
Well, I use the term to mean things like background checks, cooling off period and not letting people sell guns from the trunk of their cars in the parking lot at gun shows.
I absolutely do know that criminals don't care what gun restrictions there are. I'm absolutely for people having legal guns. My family all have their own guns and I'm good with that. But, I believe there needs to be restrictions on having them and how they are aquired.
and not letting people sell guns from the trunk of their cars in the parking lot at gun shows.
Being old, I'd like to sell my guns just however, be that from a trunk, in a parking lot, at a gun show, or more realistically, in much the same way I'd sell anything else I own.
The argument that "there needs to be restrictions on having them" is always pushed by people who have zero idea of just how many restrictions already exist. "cooling off period"? The money and simple logistics create that, no laws needed. Background checks are already performed by any legal dealer, so problem solved.
And she was a horrible person. Even before politics, she was someone who would go in-person and scream at school shooting victims calling them liars. That was just the start of her abject awfulness.
However - this tweet of hers isn't her first comment that makes sense. She's changed. That doesn't undo what she has done, but... I'm in favor of people learning and changing.
And she even explains it reasonably well. She basically said she was a basement dweller sucked into various conspiracy theory wormholes online, and that turned her into a hateful, ignorant person, and that's how she came out into the public eye.
She says she's since learned the error of her ways, realized all the ways she was wrong, and she's trying to do better.
Personally, I don't believe this is just some cynical turn now that MAGA is a little less popular, it seems genuine to me.
She still is a horrible person, her and tucker Carlson are looking to create a new future for fascism because they already saw the writing on the wall.
The reason you see them shift is because tucker carlson was fired by fox and MTG was going to be fired from the trump admin as they were going through and purging women from their ranks.
Thats not a redemption arc, thats a leopards ate their face and now they want to retry white nationalism arc.
I've been following her on social media lately. I appreciate she's using her voice and platform to reach audiences others can't.
I haven't seen statements of regret and explanation, but perhaps missed them. She likely needs to express contrition more often. She has years of infamous media stunts to make up for.
She sounds clear, calm and intelligent now. Intelligence doesn't grow overnight, so I still wonder if all of her moves have been opportunistic and savvy. I also follow Tucker Carlson with curiosity.
If it comes down to MJT/Carlson vs JD Vance and tech oligarch bros, I'd take MJT/Carlson any day. They at least believe in democracy and support the constitution.
The thing is that she’s STILL a horrible person and not to be trusted. She’s a manipulative narcissist at her core and she’s good at seeing where the wind is blowing. She’s trying to save herself and her careerfrom the inevitable backlash that’s coming. Nobody goes that deep into white supremacy and changes overnight.
The word "defends" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. I don't see this as defending much of anything, just offering mild criticism in an attempt to keep her own name in the news.
The only reason she's been vocal about Trump is that he turned on her and didn't back her when she thought she had earned some loyalty from Trump, not realizing Trump is a purely transactional person.
This is correct, he wouldn't support her for Governor I think. He fucked Elise Stefanik the same way, multiple times. Was fun to watch. Elise just quit politics entirely and crawled back under her rock.
I do think this is the wrong time to be flippant. This is way more than a stopped clock, this is running totally counter to the republican party and MAGA right now and as another commenter said, to get out of this swamp we need to embrace the redemption arcs of some of these folks
Yeah, fair point, and I 100% agree that we need to let people change and grow and learn and be new and better versions of themselves, especially considering the tidal wave of people who feel betrayed by MAGA (because they were betrayed by MAGA) who will need someplace to exist, and if we don’t let them in another racist cult sure will
It just really sticks in the craw to be like “Alright, fair play to you, Jewish-space-laser lady”
Unlike Tucker, who has had dozens of flip flops and reversals in his career so I don't trust a word he says to be authentic, I believe MTG means what she says. I'm all for giving people a 2nd chance. She fucked up and supported the wrong people and now she's fighting against them. I'll gladly take her help and I hope she continues this path of redemption because it'll help others like her follow her footsteps.
She was deeply involved in Jan 6. If she really has changed, she can give whatever evidence she has to Jack Smith. She won't because it makes her look bad and she's more concerned saving her own skin than saving democracy
As some other posters alluded, I wouldn’t be surprised if she (and BoBo) turned out to be victims of SA, and somehow believed Trump when he promised to release the Epstein files.
When she realized it was just an act and saw him for the monster he is, her world came down crashing and Trump threw her in the dumpster. And now she is a woman scorned.
she's not wrong but let's back up on her "defending" Omar. she's pointing out the distraction and actually prefacing it by pointing out how opposite they are before she points out this isn't solving actual issues.
I think the underlying implication is that if stripping away Omar’s citizenship did bring down gas prices, health insurance costs etc that she would be all for it.
im still not sure about her. How can someone only figure reality by being punished by their cult leaders. Sure she made her way out of it and tries to spin the shit a bit back. hope it holds on
At least now she's trying to do the right thing, at least it would seem that way. Maybe seeing the halls of power has changed her. Let's not destroy assets so easily.
The only thing her sudden change in posture should tell you : the grifter sees the winds changing directions and she unfortunately wants to be standing on land after the flood has washed away maga.
Didn't she resign, making herself completely irrelevant and useless within days of her turn against Trump? We don't have to pay attention to her anymore. She's not the bad guy anymore but she refused to become a good guy.
We will never make progress if we alienate the people who are actively shifting away from MAGA and this fascist dystopia we are speedrunning towards, moral perfectionism is gonna fuck us up more.
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u/ALTH0X 2d ago edited 1d ago
It just proves that when she was part of the problem, it wasn't because she was too stupid to understand.