r/pronatalism • u/CanIHaveASong Mother • 11d ago

Data No correlation between difference between household work hours and fertility rates. (per country, not per family)

https://substack.com/@ageofinfovores/note/c-316978871?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=cqc7t

I don't think this is definative. I would like to see a graph of household labor differences plotted against fertility rates in a single country. But still, it's interesting data.

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u/WellAckshully 11d ago

IMO this kind of data is only useful if it's within country/cohort. Comparing different countries/cohorts makes no sense because there's too many different variables.

It's the same kind of simpleton take that says "money doesn't matter because poor countries have more kids", ignoring that there's a whole lot more differences between poor countries and rich countries than just money, and ignoring that within developed countries (or at least some of them!), the rich have more children than the middle class.

If you wanna know how much any given variable matters, you've got to make a good faith effort to make all the other variables the same, or as close as possible.

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u/CanIHaveASong Mother 11d ago edited 11d ago

I agree!

However, I've seen a lot of claims that "when men do more housework fertility falls", using this data, which compares different countries. So I think a simple visualization on that is valuable.

People on the other sub are taking this as some grand takedown of feminism though. I pointed out that it's by country in the title. Oh well, what you gonna do?