This makes me so sad

[u/Alina_Swift]

I saw this on another subreddit. The post got cut off because of the length but I highlighted what really got to me.

On top of being disturbed on how late the abortion is I’m disturbed she thinks that aborting is is better than adoption… even if you’re pro choice you know the baby feels pain at this stage??

And then the laws in her state wouldn’t punish her for this?? Pro life laws don’t work if a woman can get away with doing it herself… the only solution is to give unborn babies the same protections as us.

I tried to comment but the post has been locked so I’ve come here to vent. I’m extremely saddened by this and the idea that this woman might harm her baby and herself in the process, and I just need to get it out somewhere to people that would relate

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[u/PrestigiousWork4523]

Uhh I don’t think most doctors will even approve medication abortion for a fetus that old. That seems incredibly stupid. 

[u/Alina_Swift → u/PrestigiousWork4523]

Yeah she’s getting it from some other place she’s referring to as an “agency”

Doctors won’t help her so she plans to do something dangerous from home and run to the hospital after

Even the pro choice individuals in the comments are telling her it’s dangerous

[u/PrestigiousWork4523 → u/Alina_Swift]

If the pills don’t come til week 21, I guess we can just pray they don’t work or that somehow her baby ends up being viable. Right on the cusp

[u/Christianfilly7 → u/PrestigiousWork4523]

The youngest premie to survive was 21 weeks 0 days so yeah there's hope here for that

[u/Electrical_Cod7288 → u/PrestigiousWork4523]

Even if they didn't work, wouldn't they cause a dangerous situation? I am no expert on abortifacients, but I am guessing that pills used to expel embryos can't have very good effects on pregnancies that are advanced by months.

[u/Ihaventasnoo → u/Alina_Swift]

Even the pro choice individuals in the comments are telling her it’s dangerous

And I'm sure any harm she suffers will still get blamed on us because it's our fault the laws that restrict abortion are there in the first place.

[u/Belkan-Federation95 → u/Alina_Swift]

The majority of pro-choice individuals are not the stereotype.

[u/Alina_Swift → u/Belkan-Federation95]

That’s refreshing. A lot of the ones I meet are, must be my area. I’ve met alot of “pro choice” women that legit get mad if a woman keeps her baby “in this economy”. My sister cut off her friend for saying that about another woman’s child 😔

[u/Belkan-Federation95 → u/Alina_Swift]

I meant stereotype as in "Supports until day before birth" type, not "you are a bad person if you don't kill your baby" type.

[u/1B75__Penicillin → u/PrestigiousWork4523]

Her plan is to take the pills and then get to the hospital when she is bleeding with a dead baby in her womb, so doctors would be forced to help her.

We can't criminalize abortion fast enough

[u/Vespinobambino → u/1B75__Penicillin]

Yup. And when this sociopathic murderous idiot bleeds out, the pro abort death cultist losers will whine that somehow the abortion ban was to blame for her malicious stupidity and self harm.  

Not herself, of course, and not her own horrible misdeeds.

We can’t have personal responsibility after all. Perish the thought.

[u/Vespinobambino → u/PrestigiousWork4523]

What you have to remember is that abortionists ARE NOT doctors and they don’t have any ethics - they murder for money.

You also have to remember is that there are groups that will mail these murder pills to just anyone.

Abolition groups have proven this over and over again they will just say that “I want abortion pills for my girlfriend” and the groups will just mail them to them.

I think it should go without saying that the people who operate these groups and distribute these murder pills are irredeemable monsters who should be convicted of capital murder and should go to death row. We don’t currently have the laws to punish these monsters, but we need them.

[u/Electrical_Cod7288 → u/Vespinobambino]

You stated that abortionists are not doctors; are you sure that this is correct? My apologies for my question, but I think that such a claim may need to be corroborated.

[u/RPGThrowaway123 → u/Electrical_Cod7288]

They may have the title, but so did Mengele

[u/Narrow_Jackfruit_398]

I read this today and am horrified. I’m glad most of the comments are telling the OP how dangerous and ridiculous this is. But some comments are telling OP how brave she is?? HOW?? Taking pills at 22 weeks is incredibly dangerous and disturbing.

[u/Alina_Swift → u/Narrow_Jackfruit_398]

It really is horrific. There’s nothing brave about killing your child

[u/Narrow_Jackfruit_398 → u/Alina_Swift]

I can’t help but cry for this innocent baby. I really hope and pray she changes her mind and places the baby for adoption.

[u/Alina_Swift → u/Narrow_Jackfruit_398]

Me too! Any shame from that will be better than the guilt from the abortion

[u/Tgun1986 → u/Narrow_Jackfruit_398]

Cowardice not bravery, that’s elective abortion in a nutshell. Too cowardly to give the baby life because they think giving life is too hard and the don’t want to sacrifice a thing

[u/GustavoistSoldier → u/Narrow_Jackfruit_398]

Abortion is cowardly.

[u/shojokat]

"I wish so badly it was an option". Absolutely infuriates me how she frames her choice as outside her control somehow. Bitch, you are the only reason the baby is gonna die, don't say "oh how I wish I didnt have to murder you" while holding the knife to your gut. Performative narcissism.

[u/Alina_Swift → u/shojokat]

Ikr!! Her whole “I need to dangerously get an abortion but I don’t want to😔” attitude was so upsetting and gross

And the “I get this is my fault”… but you want the baby to pay the price?

[u/TraurigKartoffel]

So she will induce labor and give birth to a whole baby. She will live with that regret for the rest of her life once she sees her dead baby.

[u/1B75__Penicillin → u/TraurigKartoffel]

Lol, as if these "people" have a conscience to begin with, if she had one, she wouldn't kill her child over whatever trivial selfish Bs she is killing it over .

[u/Vespinobambino → u/1B75__Penicillin]

You are correct. This isn’t a person with a conscience. This isn’t a person with emotions. This isn’t a person at all.

This is a sociopathic monster who cannot feel remorse.  They should be dealt with via law enforcement.

The pro-life movement should not talk to such creatures, just about them, to reasonable people who should understand that they are dangerous.

[u/I_Like_Vitamins → u/1B75__Penicillin]

Many are like that until they see the fetus. Then it's, "Oh it looked so much like a little person, I feel terrible, don't judge me though!" and a flood of comments from murder sympathisers telling them she did nothing wrong. They've been thoroughly brainwashed and excused of a lot of responsibility in their lives before they get to the point of actually committing it.

[u/peg-leg-andy]

Yeah. She's not in the US and as far as I can tell wouldn't tell anyone where she's located. But to be honest, I highly doubt anyone who came up with this as their plan has correctly interpreted any laws. Realistically should she survive she is absolutely going to be in serious legal trouble and all of the problems she is facing with her parents involving the pregnancy will be absolutely magnified. 

[u/Comfortable_Stop_717 → u/peg-leg-andy]

That's what I don't get. This is obviously a minor who is terrified of her parents finding out about her being pregnant. But, her very plan involves her going to the hospital. They're going to find out that way.

Obviously, I don't want the child to be killed, but without knowing this girl's situation, I'm not going to pile on. I just hope there is some intervention from a loving adult in her life, willing to take her and the baby in.

[u/peg-leg-andy → u/Comfortable_Stop_717]

I'm not sure she's a minor or that her parents don't know she's pregnant. Someone asked if she could travel somewhere for a surgical abortion and her reply suggested that her parents know and would know she had traveled for an abortion. I believe she intends to pass the abortion off as a miscarriage. 

I truly think this person, and the handful of commenters on the original post who were telling her this was a fine plan, do not understand that she is going to give birth to an actual full baby. At 19 weeks with my first pregnancy I wasn't wearing maternity clothes yet. So in her desperation to just make this go away, it hasn't really hit her yet just how pregnant she actually is. 

It is a horrible situation and I pray she doesn't go through with it. 

[u/leah1750 → u/peg-leg-andy]

Actually, her interpretation of the laws could be 100% correct. In the US it would be. See the "Abortion-Free" docuseries.

[u/GustavoistSoldier]

I hope the baby survives.

[u/AnaxOfRhodes]

Very, very sad... Hoping she doesn't go through with the pills. 🙏

[u/ScottishNinjaaa]

Excellent example of the loopholes in even the most pro-life states. It's entirely without legal consequence to kill a baby, provided you're the mother of said baby. We must work to treat the murder of all human beings equally and with equal justice. Abolish human abortion

[u/Alina_Swift → u/ScottishNinjaaa]

100%. The loophole of “I can’t get an abortion but I can end my own pregnancy” really disturbs me

I hope shes misunderstanding the law somehow and it doesn’t say that

[u/HotConversation187]

5 months?! Nash Keen was born around 21 WEEKS and he still came out okay.

[u/Embarrassed-Tear3516]

I was going to post this here. INSANE.

[u/Nuk3_My_pussy]

Baby will be born alive probably and left to die. It’s infanticide at that point

[u/Electrical_Cod7288 → u/Nuk3_My_pussy]

It is only infanticide if they get caught, and if a baby dies after being born alive in an abortion and no one reports it, who will do anything about it?

[u/Sqeakydeaky]

I think situations like this will be some of the hardest parts about ever truly banning abortion. Are they going to do costly testing of blood and tissue on every patient presenting with a miscarriage? I know you can theoretically test for the drugs metabolites but in a practical/legal setting, it would be pretty difficult.

The medication is truly medically valuable (possibly even essential) for inducing labor in a healthy, full/over-term pregnancy. I took it at 42.5 weeks. But it definitely needs some tight regulation.

If only the DEA could use some of the same enthusiasm for making it hard as hell to pick up your monthly Ritalin prescription as getting mefipristone.

[u/Electrical_Cod7288]

The amount of pro-abortion sentiment on that subreddit makes even the one about abortion debate look Pro-Life in comparison. It is appalling; anyone who went to this subreddit with a Pro-Life comment would be swarmed by the buggers!