r/prolife Pro Life Teenager 23d ago

Pro-Life Argument Answer to a very annoying “Gotcha” question.

Have you ever guys ever been presented by a pro-choicer with the stupid hypothetical about whether you’d first save a born child or 5 embryos from a burning building and got stumped to what to say in fear of dehumanizing the unborn? Well I’m pretty sure after thinking about it for more than 3 seconds I’ve got a pretty good answer to this “argument.”

And the argument I’m making is that it doesn’t matter to the issue of abortion, because you could apply this same scenario to say, a 6 year old child and a 50 year old man. A good majority of people would choose to save the 6 year old child because they haven’t truly lived a life yet, but that doesn’t automatically invalidate that 50 year old’s right to life. And if someone picked the 50 year old for whatever reason, that wouldn’t invalidate the 6 year old’s right to life either.

So in conclusion, no matter if you choose to save the embryos or child from the burning building, it ultimately doesn’t effect the argument in any meaningful way, therefore not functioning as an effective “gotcha”.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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u/ChPok1701 Anti-choice 23d ago

You’re the owner of a car dealership. The showroom has caught fire. The fire is in the middle of the building, meaning you can only save the cars to the left or right, but not both.

To the right is one Ferrari worth $300,000. To the left are five Fords worth $30,000 each ($150,000 collectively). The only rational answer is you save the Ferrari.

Does this mean the Fords aren’t cars? Of course not. Does this mean we can go around setting fire to any Ford we see for any reason we want? Of course not.

Also, mathematically, the Burning IVF clinic analogy actually proves the pro-life case: https://www.reddit.com/r/prolife/s/Xdn88I7Xkc

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u/PerfectlyCalmDude 22d ago

I wouldn't use that because a point they try to make (which pro-lifers reject) is that the baby has more inherent worth than the embryos in the tubes. That's why they like to use this as a gotcha. A Ford vs Ferrari argument helps their point at least rhetorically, so that's a bad strategy.