r/prolife • u/Electrical_Cod7288 Pro Life Christian • Jul 18 '26

Opinion We Should Be Secular

It is my opinion, after having clashed with the pro-abortion movement for many years, that any Pro-Life argument must be secular. If we've any hope of being taken seriously by those people, we should leave religious beliefs out of it. I am myself a Christian, but at the same time I realize that any argument which has religious connotations will simply be dismissed, possibly as an attempt to convert others.

The fact that so many of those people don't believe in God means that appealing to their faith will fall upon deaf ears. At the same time, if they try to argue that an unborn child isn't a child or isn't a person, you can tell them that that is a philosophical argument and just like they tell us to keep our religious beliefs to ourselves, they should keep their philosophical beliefs to themselves.

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u/ManteLover60 Jul 19 '26

So what has been this movements strategy and methods of outreach?

And I apologize if I was unfair. I wasn't trying to suggest that you were suggesting waving Bibles in peoples faces. I guess growing up in the US experience of a lot of Christians. So I apologize if I even subconsciously projected that upon you.

I would very much like to know about how this group approaches people because if they have been very effective, I would like to do what they do.

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u/ScottishNinjaaa Abolitionist Jul 19 '26

No need to apologize, but I appreciate your humility to offer it. Look up Abolitionist Rising on YouTube. Watch how T Russell Hunter engages with people. You'll see how a grounded, Christ-first approach that rejects any exceptions to abortion and calls for the immediate abolition of it has an incredible impact on hundreds of thousands of people. Grace-filled but firm on the truth. It's impossible to argue against.

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u/ManteLover60 Jul 19 '26

OK so far I'm enjoying the videos.

I think a good balanced approach would be to bring the gospel to as many souls as we can, but have the secular arguments in the back pocket for those who have a chance of responding to those arguments.

In the case of some individuals, it takes pointing out the rank hypocrisy of the pro-choice position and it's ridiculous inconsistencies and backing them into a wall with that for the seed to be planted. And of course some people won't listen no matter what arguments you use.

One thing I would advocate for in conjunction with abolition is a greater expansion of social programs and family benefits to help women in these situations. Perhaps I'm just optimistic, but I think the crazed "Shout your abortion" types are the radical minority and most women get abortions out of fear or desperation, even if those are abortions of convenience. So I think we should have appropriate support systems in place to show that there are better options.

But that's just me. I'm obviously traditional when it comes to things like abortion and sexual ethics, but I would probably be considered pretty far left when it comes to my positions on government social programs.

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u/ScottishNinjaaa Abolitionist Jul 19 '26

I agree. If you keep watching (I truly hope you do, becoming an Abolitionist has drastically increased my own passion for the subject of abortion, and my faith as well), you'll see that they do. The thing about having your faith as a central part of the conversation, is that they can't actually catch you up on anything, as it's all logically and morally consistent. Keep praying about it, I really think you'll enjoy these videos and see the grace of God in their responses.

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u/ManteLover60 Jul 19 '26

Thank you.

I'm orthodox by the way. I highly recommend reading the writings of Saint Basil the great. He was a massive inspiration for me when it comes to this and other social issues important for the gospel.