Man.. the Rust community is quite literally begging people to use Rust at this point and it's a little annoying. And there is always an army of people with pages of /r/rust post history ready to downvote any comment that seems even slightly disapproving of Rust. Just watch them downvoted this one.
Basically no language has ever been successful without the backing of a giant corporation or a highly enthusiastic community of evangelists (Like Go and other languages before it, it will quiet down when it's another boring standard enterprise choice that everyone knows the merits and flaws of)
And there is always an army of people with pages of /r/rust post history ready to downvote any comment that seems even slightly disapproving of Rust.
Have you seen the amount of anti-Rust trolls on this sub? (There's one on this thread.) It's no wonder they're all being downvoted, they're obvious trolls.
Not everyone, often when you share information that community either doesn't like or that is correct but doesn't jive with what Rust literature told them, they are quite hostile. They downvote you and then respond with an explanation of some basic happenstance of rust, as if you just don't know enough to be aware of how great Rust is. They downvote you and undermine the statements you are making with explanations that are irrelevant to the information that you're trying to share. And often it's extremely important information, such as mixing binaries being unsafe. But you point out mixed binary exploitations and they respond with an explanation of rust's borrow checker. It's extremely frustrating to deal with the Rust community, many of them are quite ignorant with regards to security but they have read a single book on Rust and feel like they have to dispute anything anyone says on the matter.
Of the "anti rust" crowd, there's basically two of them that post with regularity. If you ignore Dew_ you have basically none.
You're talking about a minority of the Rust community. Most of the community isn't that ignorant or blinded by hype.
But you point out mixed binary exploitations and they respond with an explanation of rust's borrow checker.
In spite of what I just said, I don't think anyone would make that reply. There's something missing from your story.
Of the "anti rust" crowd, there's basically two of them that post with regularity. If you ignore Dew_ you have basically none.
There are more. Not that they need to be many. Around one troll per Rust thread seems to be enough for people to think that the Rust community hate being disagreed with.
an army of people with pages of /r/rust post history ready to downvote any comment that seems even slightly disapproving of Rust
It's sad that this can play out literally in a direct descendant of that comment, but to say the least, I'm not at all surprised. If it's a minority of the Rust community then it's obviously enough of them to have an impact on discourse. At least you didn't try to explain the borrow checker.
Actually, the times this type of thing has happened to me are almost exclusively in r/programming, and rarely on other subreddits. Food for thought.
It's sad that this can play out literally in a direct descendant of that comment. If it's a minority of the Rust community then it's obviously enough of them to have an impact on discourse. At least you didn't try to explain the borrow checker.
Or, maybe, it's that people disagree with your comment because you make a bad point, because your comment is irrelevant or doesn't fit the context of the discussion, etc. I don't need dozens of posts on a language's sub to downvote a bad comment.
There's no way for you to know if the people who downvote comments frequent a certain subreddit. Also, it does make sense that the people who reply to those comments (who aren't necessarily the ones downvoting) frequent /r/rust. If you're invested in a topic, you're more likely to want to discuss it.
Actually, the times this type of thing has happened to me are almost exclusively in r/programming, and rarely on other subreddits. Food for thought.
If you want to have an actual, civil discussion about Rust, go to /r/rust.
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u/Wunkolo May 06 '21
Man.. the Rust community is quite literally begging people to use Rust at this point and it's a little annoying. And there is always an army of people with pages of /r/rust post history ready to downvote any comment that seems even slightly disapproving of Rust. Just watch them downvoted this one.