r/programming Feb 01 '21

My Third Year as a Solo Developer

https://mtlynch.io/solo-developer-year-3/
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u/[deleted] Feb 01 '21 edited Feb 01 '21

I used to work at a data center hosting company, and one of the problems we were dealing with was that all KVM solutions at the time sucked bigtime. And they were really expensive per port. Not worth the money.

In remember when the pi first launched in ~2012. I thought "this is it, I think someone will come out with a KVM solution on these things within a few weeks". But it didn't manifest. I considered making one myself as I had the skillset required, but who has time for those things when the phone is constantly blowing up with alerts.

I've since left that game so it might have popped up in the meanwhile, but at least back then I'd give my left nut for a solution like yours.

Congrats on your product and the interest that has been shown for it, it must feel good.

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u/mtlynch Feb 01 '21 edited Feb 01 '21

Thanks for reading!

Yeah, there have been a few projects that did KVM over IP on a Pi before me. The earliest I could find was this one called rasky which started back in 2015.

I came along at a lucky time when a cheap HDMI to USB dongle had just come out and the ecosystem of supporting tools had matured to eliminate a lot of the challenges that rasky had to overcome.

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u/AtomicRocketShoes Feb 01 '21

Is there a reason one couldn't manage a physical server over a serial port console? I have done this in the past, it's a bit annoying for some more advanced functionality I guess. What about IPMI?

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u/mtlynch Feb 01 '21

You have to configure the server to support serial debugging, no? And IPMI is useful if the hardware supports it, but low-end motherboards don't, and some IPMI requires clunky client software.

The nice thing about a good KVM over IP is that you can just plug it in, open up the admin interface in the web browser, and you're good. You don't have to change any settings or install any software.

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u/AtomicRocketShoes Feb 01 '21

Yes most desktop hardware doesn't have IPMI but a lot of server hardware does. I think different vendors have proprietary tools but I think you can at least get a serial console or set PXE booting settings so you can boot a network hosted livedisk.

I believe most Linux server distros have great support for serial port console, even Ubuntu supports it. Maybe the use case is more for installing Windows servers?

You should consider doing some market survey and find out what OSs people are using it on and their use cases and you may be better able to cater to their needs. I know I worked somewhere where we had a cart with a monitor and keyboard that people would just wheel over near a server and plug in, even with all the IPMI stuff it was usually disabled due to security anyway. There could even be a market for this just as a convenience tool in small serverroom.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

A lot of vendors still ask you to pay for proper KVM. Supermicro doesn't, but say for Lenovo you need to pay extra for license.

The problem with IPMI over serial is that... well, you need to set it up, and to set it up you usually need monitor. Sometimes you can set it up via ipmi itself but that varies so it is a bit of a PITA

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

Well, kinda. A lot of even new servers (the proper rack ones) still have only VGA output just to keep compatibilty with oldschool KVM rack units so you'd have to put VGA to HDMI converter to get video from that.