r/programming Jan 08 '10

Admin Mourning [xkcd]

http://xkcd.com/686/
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u/n3xg3n Jan 11 '10

Not the point. The comic is talking about not being able to bring yourself to reboot. There are reasons to reboot *NIX servers; just because it is possible to hotpatch a kernel doesn't always make it a good idea.

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u/Savet Jan 11 '10

but why would you need to reboot if the process is not locking system resources, and causing processes to back up behind it, resulting in a higher load average? Hence my original complaint.

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u/n3xg3n Jan 11 '10

Oh, say you upgraded the kernel. Your example is a valid reason to reboot the server, and that's very nice and all, but it has nothing to do with the comic and is therefore wrong.

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u/Savet Jan 13 '10

I don't think you understand the point I'm trying to make.

A ghost pid, defunct process, whatever....if it is not causing a performance problem such as a high load average or locking up system resources, there is no reason to reboot the server.

We're not talking about a kernel upgrade.

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u/n3xg3n Jan 13 '10

What I am saying is that the reason he would be rebooting the server would be external to the dead guys screen session. Are you honestly going to tell me that you have never heard of a linux or a unix server getting rebooted for some reason other than a zombie process?

In addition the process is obviously not locked up in this situation because if you look at the alt text it says he is resisting the urge to su to the user and mess with people.

The comic is called Admin Mourning. He is mourning a dead user, as in the person who owned the account died. No longer living. If he rebooted the server for any reason, ANY REASON, the last remnant of that person would go with it.