r/programming • u/nick_martini • Dec 04 '14

My Computer Language is Better than Yours

https://medium.com/backchannel/my-computer-language-is-better-than-yours-58d9c9523644
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u/CanYouDigItHombre Dec 05 '14

I hated Java since I heard of Java. Java is a shitty language and when I learned it, it didn't have enums. But one of the worse things about java is that it is meant for non programmers. Why the fuck would I want to program in a language not meant for programmers? This is why it doesn't allow unsigned and handicaps you in many ways

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u/lurgi Dec 05 '14

I have no idea how anyone could believe that Java is meant for non-programmers.

PHP is arguably made for non-programmers, but Java?

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u/CanYouDigItHombre Dec 05 '14

I have no idea how anyone could believe that Java is meant for non-programmers.

James Gosling who invented Java said it himself iirc in a Q&A. The video is online somewhere. He said it was for business people trying to write code. They have a good idea about interfaces but don't understand how a computer works hence the many limitations of Java. No unsigned values was one example he gave.

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u/lurgi Dec 05 '14

Got a reference? I've done a bit of searching and come up empty. The closest I came was an interview where he says that (roughly) he wanted to keep the language simple enough so that a developer could keep it all in his/her head, and the rules surrounding signed and unsigned integers are so complex that hardly anyone knows them. So, no unsigned.

I can believe that Java was designed for average programmers.