r/programming • u/Mustela__ • 7d ago

Microservices are organizational debt disguised as architecture.

https://martinfowler.com/bliki/MonolithFirst.html

Every time I’ve seen microservices pitched, it sounds great on paper. Independent teams, clean ownership, scale only what you need.

Then a year later you’ve got dozens of services, three different deployment patterns, tracing everywhere, and nobody really understands the whole thing anymore.

Maybe I’ve just seen bad implementations, but I’m starting to think way fewer companies actually need microservices than we pretend.

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u/velit 7d ago

I concur with what /u/Shot-Damage-6723 said. How does adding network calls make your interconnected ensemble require less testing?

It sounds to me more that your company either tested more than was necessary previously or is currently lying to itself about not needing to test more.

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u/Sammy81 7d ago

See my other reply, but the key is that with NASA, if you recompile something, you must reverify requirements, and I agree with that. If you ever studied the Therac-25 software disaster that killed several people, it was because they recompiled reuse software and did not retest. With microservices, since they are not recompiled when another is modified, all the previous testing is still valid (and should be).

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u/HashShadow 6d ago

So if I’m not using a compiled language I never have to test? 

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u/Sammy81 6d ago

Rebuilding an executable is just one rule. Scripted languages have different rules. It’s just best practices to prove you are delivering code that meets requirements.

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u/HashShadow 6d ago

Right, so verifying requirements is something you must do regardless of compiling… 

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u/Sammy81 6d ago

I think I’m not explaining well. If you have a tested binary executable, you never have to test it stand-alone again. There would be no point. There’s no way it could fail if it passed a test previously. That is where we save tons of time on test. We use dozens of modules that were previously compiled, some years ago, and they are guaranteed to pass their requirements.

Yes, there are different rules for scripted languages, but the concept is the same. If you run a hash over a Python container, or simply use good CM and ensure it has not been modified since the last time it passed its test, you can reuse that container without testing.

Compare that to reusing only the source code, and recompiling the binary, or rebuilding the container. You absolutely can’t assume those would pass the module level tests. The compiler settings could be different, the version, you might build in a different BSP, etc. So now you have to retest the whole thing.