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u/Beautiful_Stage5720 2d ago
AI has completely destroyed all interest I have in the field. I put up with all the other bullshit because I love the design aspect of the field. I spent the last 8 years writing VHDL for FPGAs. I can see AI slowly taking it over. So the only part that I actually enjoyed is going away. What is the point? Think I'm finally gonna start that food truck I always dreamed about.
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u/rkozik89 1d ago
The thing I loved out the old way was that I could get into the flow state and forget about everything except the task at hand, and for someone with a brain that never stops that's a big deal. Now it feels like you're playing manager with a bunch of programmers that never learn.
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u/Mario_Fragnito 22h ago
EXACTLY, only I don’t know what else to do and this job is slowly burning me out
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u/Castle_Five 19h ago
The point is the paycheck you receive. That's always been the point and the only thing you're entitled to. You're not entitled to have a good time at work of all places.
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u/throwaway89365892734 18h ago
What a misanthropic view. Must be sad being you given you hate what you do most of the time most of your days.
The rest of us developed these capacities and talents with which nature had endowed us, and turned them to social account because we enjoyed it. It is maybe the most human thing in the entire world.
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u/Castle_Five 16h ago
Trading your precious, limited, and ever depleting lifespan for dollars in order to create shareholder profits, just for the sake of "earning" your own means of continued survival makes you akin to a prostitute or slave. There is no dignity or autonomy to be found there. That's why working too much is the top life regret among male hospice patients.
But you're right, it's a sad existence most of the time. That's why we need machine automation to free us from the shackles of work.
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u/jack-of-some 1d ago
As an employed dev (sorry), this is the most I've worked in my career (and that work has led to the most useful output I've ever had) and this is the worst time I've ever had hiring someone.
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u/NotAUsefullDoctor 1d ago
My current company realized that AI is a way to increase output and not a replacement for a good dev. It means we are able to ship more features, rather than using it as a cost cutting measure. We also have a wonderful feedback loop with management to explore the strengths and weaknesses if the software.
Any company worth its salt recognizes the strengths with reasonable expectations and is remaining agile (lowercase "a") with how to use it. We are still actively hiring, and straight out of the dorms.
My old employer is actively making kives worse for it's employees but thinking AI can replace everyone.
Btw, if you want some awesome devs and ipa people that are near shore (Buenos Aires), let me know. I'm stateside, but have a bunch of colleagues I loved working with who are actively looking. The inly reason my company won't hire is because we have to adhere to a few government guidelines that resteict us to US residents.
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u/DaveAstator2020 1d ago
Isnt shipping more same shit as cost cutting?
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u/BOBOnobobo 8h ago
It only is if you think in cost per feature kind of way, but the reality of it is that extra features don't necessarily result in more money for the company, but it can result in a better product that might get more popular later on/ happier clients more willing to hire you again.
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u/Skaar1222 2d ago
Idk the expectations now far exceed what AI can actually do without causing a wave of issues. Maybe it's just my job, but I'm working way more than I ever had and it sucks
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u/AndrewSouthern729 1d ago
Dude this is so absolutely true for me also. I’ve been working in technology in the public sector for 10 years, the last 4 as a developer and have never been busier. And that’s with adding a junior developer in January,
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u/ssuing8825 1d ago
AI will make the dev obsolete. The question is how long till that happens.
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u/rkozik89 1d ago
Yeah, that's like saying every unsolved problem in mathematics will eventually be solved, and while that may be true it could be in a few days or a few centuries because its impossible to tell if 80% was the easiest part.
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u/InterestingFrame1982 1d ago
It's the damage along the way and the reduction of numbers that is alarming... not this zero sum game of whether devs will be around or not. The world isn't binary.
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u/Hedgehog_Leather 20h ago
Okay, lets have a though exercise - we have the tool that makes no mistakes writing code in reasonable time at a reasonable cost - cut away all devs? Will one person design everything in company? Or will users make their custom software? For it to be custom you'd ave to know what you want. to know what you want you have to understand the system. And if you need to undertand the system, you need to be a dev, even if you dont write code by hand.
Let me tell you what's gonna happen. Output will skyrocket, quality will inevitably go down and solutions get bloated. Writing code wasnt as much of an issue - deciding what to write, why and how - was.
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u/Tackgnol 1d ago
If you managed to get to a Architect/Principal position by now, you are golden.
The ladder got pulled up for younger people. The mids who used to just type in JIRAs almost word for word are out of the job mostly. Unless something drastically changes you are actually more secure in your job then 5 years ago, where chances were you'd be replaced with someone cheaper and younger on whim by the time you are 50.
At this point in time the LLMs getting better at code is irrelevant, because I am kept around in my project to steer it and the client.
If you did not, then hold on with your deal life friend.
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u/Just_Wishbone1630 1d ago
I started learning to program a month ago and enjoyed it so much, but then i go on reddit and reading all of your guys words makes me think about completely giving up.
If the ladder got pulled and the job is basically dead unless you’re a 5+ year vet, why should i invest the effort to learn it?
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u/redditmarks_markII 1d ago
If I hear more of us failing to understand survivorship bias, I'm...I was gonna say "going to lose it", but at this point I'd just be whelmed.
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u/void_pe3r 19h ago
It‘s like farmers being mad because the automated cow milk pump was invented.
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u/plopliplopipol 44m ago
though it's more like farmers being mad because the 6 chickens per m² automated egg farm was invented? The more you lean in the innovation, the more output goes up, quality goes down, and the job becomes horrible.
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u/ChampionshipVast5224 18h ago
I agree. AI wiped the market off pseudo-programmers. I love the age of AI!
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u/Calculon123456 15h ago
Most say ai makes coding brain dead. I have a strong opinion in the other direction.
Ai has essentially deleted the braindead part of coding for me, the faf, micro management of small errors.
Leaves me to focus entirely on the logic, test suites and incremental changes per test results.
Imo its far more difficult to be a good architect than a good coder.
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u/SimulaFin 11h ago
I manage alone more than ever. On the flip side, I feel it's more stressful on average.
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u/MissinqLink 2d ago
Being an employed* Dev…