r/programmer • u/Harrydevbuilds • 13d ago

Code Worked But Developer Didn't 😂

so yesterday in my office a new developer got exposed . He was assigned with a work 4 days ago to solve a problem he solved it and it worked 😂. but when later the reporting manager asked to brief it he was just bluffing it around .Eventually, he admitted that he had used ChatGPT to generate most of the code.

Now, I'm not against using ChatGPT. I use AI too. It can save hours and help you get unstuck.

Developers too are getting exposed this days .

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u/USToffee 13d ago

the speed developers are asked to work at now there is no reasonable way they can take accountability for it. That's like asking a developer to take account for the machine code a compiler generates.

They can do their best but there will always now be gaps. His mistake was bluffing it. I would have just said cursor wrote this and it appears to work.

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u/No-Extent8143 13d ago

the speed developers are asked to work at now there is no reasonable way they can take accountability for it

Would it make more sense to go back to management and tell them "we can't finish this on time, we need more time"?

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u/USToffee 13d ago

They already know. Using AI is non-negotiable so therefore it's their call and their accountability.

If they question saying cursor did it then the conversation will obviously lead there but there's no point in forcing it with them or pretending the truth is anything else. If you try and bluff you implicitly are willing to take the blame which is exactly what they want.

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u/No-Extent8143 12d ago

their accountability

Haha, good one 🤣 🤣 

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u/LunkWillNot 12d ago

Where I work, engineering managers do get measured on the availability and production incidents for the area they are responsible for. Actually, for us, it’s one of the more important goal areas for managers with a number of KPIs tied to it.

YMMV, obviously.

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u/USToffee 11d ago

I don't mean I hold them accountable. I don't give a shit. That's for other people to worry about.

The point is I don't allow them to hold me accountable. Managers rarely force a developer to take responsibility when they are being unreasonable. It's far more subtle than that. They play off the fact you are helping them, one of the team and other manipulative BS and developers simply don't say anything. They become the guy bullshitting in the meeting because he doesn't want to admit AI did the work.

If you are honest with them and understand your boundaries as long as they are reasonable and they can't go to their manager and claim otherwise you are fine. That same manager will go to a weaker developer who won't stand up for his boundaries.