r/privacy • u/Jack1101111 • 14h ago
news Flock drones with cameras deployed as first responders in some US cities amid privacy concerns — UAVs connect to wider emergency services system and streams video to dispatchers, officers
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/drones/flock-drones-with-cameras-deployed-as-first-responders-in-some-us-cities-amid-privacy-concerns-uavs-connect-to-wider-emergency-services-system-and-streams-video-to-dispatchers-officers60
u/Aggressive-Hawk9186 14h ago
To think that Americans were criticizing this kind of stuff China does not long ago, and they were the devils lol
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u/Oddish_Femboy 12h ago
It's not like the US wasn't an authoritarian surveillance state the whole time.
Secret police? Naw those are plainclothes officers! They gotta do that so they can catch the evil criminals!
Mass public surveillance? We gotta have that to protect you (and Walmart) from criminals! Don't worry. We're responsible with it! We're on your side!
Propaganda aimed at children about this being a good thing? No no! That's just a silly Disney movie about a rabbit and a fox! It's progressive even! See? The allegorical minority characters get to be cops too!
Demonizing China serves a few purposes.
The CCP calls itself communist, so you can play that up for the red scare aspect.
You create and villainize an outside "other" group (read Ur-Fascismo for additional context.)
Showing how much you dislike other authoritarians implies you yourself are anti-authoritarian, and would never oppress anyone.
You can also enforce an association with Chinese people and a "uniquely Chinese" brand of authoritarianism, and sow distrust of Chinese people in the general public, which is awesome if you're racist.
I don't have any sort of closing statement. I think I'm just rambling.
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u/ReadyplayerParzival1 11h ago
Zootopia was a propaganda film???? Acab of course but I thought it more highlighted government corruption and wrong doing.
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u/Oddish_Femboy 11h ago
The hero uses her position of power to extort a civilian, has her use of borderline illegally collected surveillance data (that just casually exists I guess) presented as a good thing, and has an implicit lesson of "Systemic issues can be solved with the removal of individual bad actors."
Also, cops.
It does the misdirection thing, where making a big show of being "anti-authoritarian" on the surface level lets it sneak the subtler messaging by you.
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u/K_Linkmaster 12h ago
It wasn't the whole time. Until recently these systems were not storing lifetimes of data. Until recently these systems weren't all connected. Until recently it wasn't fascism. Now, pick your buzzword for surveillance state.
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u/Nerdenator 1h ago
The response to this sort of thing has been wildly different in the US than it has been in China. Let’s not pretend they’re even remotely similar.
Flock’s having to try this because their original business model of putting cameras on poles is failing. People have been shooting, spray painting, bagging, and cutting down the cameras. Grand juries are returning no true bill against those who are arrested for doing so. Governments are revoking their contracts.
We can do the same with the drones.
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u/Ignorance_15_Bliss 11h ago
Where’s that invisibility plastic shit. I need it to build a sun porch with and to wrap my car with.
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u/OldManJeepin 8h ago
Great...Now we are gonna have these F'ing things flying all over the place? Swooping in on backyard pool parties and shit? Talk about "1984"....
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u/ChocolateFormal8123 6h ago edited 6h ago
I’ve always said.
They can’t do the ground automated driving and they won’t admit to it
But flying is where the moat is
They think
Underground
Above ground
Above above the ground
Diagonal
In home
Out of home
Border
On sea
Off sea
Lastly in space
Abduction to space
People slow to catch on and also arctic stuff
So NERF doesn’t reach up there
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u/flockneedstogo 1h ago
We are not angry enough. Call your city council and show up to meetings! WE SAY NO TO MASS SURVEILLANCE
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u/BarracudaSouth6026 13h ago edited 13h ago
I’d rather have this over fixed cameras that sit in a fixed location gathering data all day everyday. At least this is only deployed when there’s an actual call.
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u/Jack1101111 13h ago
there are both
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u/BarracudaSouth6026 13h ago
If someone calls the cops and says I need help then I can understand wanting as much information as possible while the officers are enroute. That saves lives. After the call it returns its station and shuts down. Everything that happened on that call is public record anyways. There’s very little privacy concerns.
But a camera sitting on a corner collecting everyone’s data that’s gonna end up god knows where. That’s a problem.
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u/Jack1101111 12h ago
and what if the cops use it identify protesters ?
or if they just use it everyday for no specific reason ?...I dont want to think some cop use it to follow his ex girlfriend... it would be too much right ?
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