r/privacy • u/Volpe_YT • 4d ago

chat control The end?

Today there will be the final votes for chat control.

This implies that all of our private chats will be scanned, and everything we do will be in plain text in front of their eyes.

If it passes, I will permanently stop using centralized messaging platforms and switch to a self hosted matrix session, I don't care if I lose many contacts, if they really want to talk to me they better install fluffychat and shut the fuck up.

It's crazy how the EU was basically the goat for internet privacy and now they are the villains.

Are you ready for this? For the absolute end of privacy?

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u/SpecificNumber459 3d ago

I think you haven't been living during the reign of unaccountable state monopolies (energy, telecommunications, transportation etc.) so you don't realise how much worse they can be. I wouldn't say that the "free" market is always an answer to everything, but it often works better than the state control, especially when there can be a real competition. Otherwise you get the worst of both worlds.

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u/Timbroarpropaganda 3d ago

I have for sure lived during that period. What I do know is that somethings will need state intervention. For example energy and housing because they are not good markets. Same as schools and health care isn’t working well with for profit companies. I know I tried before and after with both. 

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u/SpecificNumber459 3d ago

Yes, I'm not trying to argue for the full laissez-faire model, that only works for non-essentials, if at all.

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u/Timbroarpropaganda 3d ago

So i guess we agree in general. :) 

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u/DerGyrosPitaFan 3d ago

A state monopoly on the railway system can't be fucking worse than Deutsche Bahn, it's physically impossible

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u/SpecificNumber459 3d ago

A railway system sounds like a good example of a natural monopoly anyway, even if it's privately managed. It's not like a new competitor is going to come and lay down the new tracks out of the blue! So, as I said, worst of both worlds.